Air fresheners - Page 5

MargaretR · 22-06-2012, 08:52

The non smokers who are still using petrochemical products in their homes, and breathe in exhaust fumes when they are out, have a greater toxic load on their system than I do.

jaysay · 22-06-2012, 09:02

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie

No ,she asked the district nurse for a nebuliser but the nurse said she couldn't have one , she has to use her inhalers more. But my mother being my mother ( being a nurse all her life) is as they say the worst type of patient.

Can't have a nebuliser, I've had one at home for 30 years and have used it everyday for the last 26 years, seems strange they won't let her have one, you can buy them yourself very cheaply something I've always done and all the servicing and spare parts so it doesn't cost the NHS anything except the drugs which aren't that expensive really, seems a nonsense if she could get some relief from one

jaysay · 22-06-2012, 09:03

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

The non smokers who are still using petrochemical products in their homes, and breathe in exhaust fumes when they are out, have a greater toxic load on their system than I do.

But if you didn't smoke you'd be completely free

MargaretR · 22-06-2012, 09:15

The 'medicine' can be worse than the disease.

Inhaled anticholinergics and risk of major adverse card... [JAMA. 2008] - PubMed - NCBI
"Inhaled anticholinergics are associated with a significantly increased risk of cardiovascular death, MI, or stroke among patients with COPD."

jaysay · 22-06-2012, 09:28

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

The 'medicine' can be worse than the disease.

Inhaled anticholinergics and risk of major adverse card... [JAMA. 2008] - PubMed - NCBI
"Inhaled anticholinergics are associated with a significantly increased risk of cardiovascular death, MI, or stroke among patients with COPD."

Interesting Article Margaret, but there is no mention of Salbutamol (Ventolin), which is one of the main relievers of Asthma and which I've used for 32 years, however I do also use ipratropium bromide, one of the things mentioned in that article, not sure if this is prescribed very often these days, but its taken in conjunction with Ventolin, I nebulise both together, I have never had any problems with my cardiovascular system in fact my BP often causes amusement among medical staff because its near on perfect, which is very rare in some one with advanced COPD

MargaretR · 04-08-2012, 13:00

Just when I thought I was on an upward track, having stopped using natural gas, a new neighbour below me has today saturated the communal stairwell with air freshener.

I put on a carbon filter mask and ventured onto the stairs to ask him to 'please don't use' it. He said he wouldn't in future, but today I now have a splitting headache.

I am looking for any ground floor accommodation to rent that doesn't have gas appliances - they are rare.

One that is all electric is the notorious 'Puddleside' flats.
Another is that new housing on Pickup St, but who in their right mind wants to live in Springhill!

Locally Puddleside seems the only option but has some drawbacks concerning vehicle access and there are no flats at ground floor level.

The area at the back has locked gates and only the 'pay extra to park there' residents can use it. I have tried to look at the front access on google maps and it appears that there is nowhere my grocery delivery van could park.

I have mailed the landlord to clarify this access problem.

If I get a favourable reply I might be on the move.

susie123 · 04-08-2012, 13:22

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

Just when I thought I was on an upward track, having stopped using natural gas, a new neighbour below me has today saturated the communal stairwell with air freshener.

I put on a carbon filter mask and ventured onto the stairs to ask him to 'please don't use' it. He said he wouldn't in future, but today I now have a splitting headache.

I am looking for any ground floor accommodation to rent that doesn't have gas appliances - they are rare.

One that is all electric is the notorious 'Puddleside' flats.
Another is that new housing on Pickup St, but who in their right mind wants to live in Springhill!

Locally Puddleside seems the only option but has some drawbacks concerning vehicle access and there are no flats at ground floor level.

The area at the back has locked gates and only the 'pay extra to park there' residents can use it. I have tried to look at the front access on google maps and it appears that there is nowhere my grocery delivery van could park.

I have mailed the landlord to clarify this access problem.

If I get a favourable reply I might be on the move.

I think air fresheners should be banned. They are one of the most antisocial inventions ever. A relative of mine had the plug in ones all over her house and I couldn't breathe in there, don't know how she managed.

On the subject of grocery deliveries - if the company wants your custom, I bet they'd find a way to get the van there - surely you wouldn't be the only one in that complex who has a delivery?

MargaretR · 04-08-2012, 13:32

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Originally Posted by susie123

I think air fresheners should be banned. They are one of the most antisocial inventions ever. A relative of mine had the plug in ones all over her house and I couldn't breathe in there, don't know how she managed.

On the subject of grocery deliveries - if the company wants your custom, I bet they'd find a way to get the van there - surely you wouldn't be the only one in that complex who has a delivery?

The occupancy rate there is low due to the high rent and 'no central heating'. From what I have heard they are targeted at 'young professionals' who usually are car owners who don't need grocery deliveries.

Another avenue for me to explore is Anchor Sheltered housing - there are several places locally - I have mailed them asking about natural gas in their flats.

susie123 · 04-08-2012, 13:36

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

The occupancy rate there is low due to the high rent and 'no central heating'. From what I have heard they are targeted at 'young professionals' who usually are car owners who don't need grocery deliveries.

Another avenue for me to explore is Anchor Sheltered housing - there are several places locally - I have mailed them asking about natural gas in their flats.

Before we came north, in my experience it was the young professionals were we lived who did have their groceries delivered - too knackered after working hard to earn money to pay for posh housing to be arsed to go to the supermarket.

MargaretR · 04-08-2012, 13:52

Thanks - I may be in with a chance there

Another reason for me actively seeking to move is a 'nasty' letter I got from Hyndburn Homes this week about the annual Gas Appliance Check.

When their 'checker' called recently I explained that I don't use gas anymore and he just went away. They say I refused entry (I didn't) and that they could evict me for non cooperation.

I have mailed them with an explanation and await a reply.
Why should I let them turn the meter back on and use gas to test a boiler which I don't use, thereby incurring gas cost and exposure to fumes. I am willing that they do it provided that -
the workman they send wears no perfumed products and that they choose a good weather day when I can have all my windows wide open.

My parents lived in Anchor Housing at Morecambe. The heating was operated from a boiler house, so most flats would not be exposed to any exhaust fumes from it. I recall they had an electric cooker.
Today I have flung my window open wide because the fly problem has lessened, but will have to shut it because an alottment holder has decided to have a bonfire nearby and they tend to burn old furniture (foam).

I feel like I am battling with the world today.

jaysay · 04-08-2012, 13:54

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

The occupancy rate there is low due to the high rent and 'no central heating'. From what I have heard they are targeted at 'young professionals' who usually are car owners who don't need grocery deliveries.

Another avenue for me to explore is Anchor Sheltered housing - there are several places locally - I have mailed them asking about natural gas in their flats.

Anchor have one in Darwen Margaret, Jambutty lives there

but on a serious point I agree about aerosol sprays, there's only one which doesn't effect me that's Nutrodol, but I haven't even had one of those for ages, I can't use aerosol deodorants or talk can only use roll on

susie123 · 04-08-2012, 14:06

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I can't use aerosol deodorants or talk

Well I haven't noticed you keeping quiet

jaysay · 04-08-2012, 14:10

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Originally Posted by susie123

Well I haven't noticed you keeping quiet

And there's no chance of you doing it either with a gob like yours, bet your teeth and glad when your mouth goes to sleep at night

Less · 04-08-2012, 14:57

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

Another is that new housing on Pickup St, but who in their right mind wants to live in Springhill!

Now come on Mag's, part of where you live is about your own input, however considering the flats off Pickup St. I can agree with that.

Back in 2007 when I was forced to move because they wanted to turn Holland St into a pile of wasteland. I looked at those flats, the one offered had scars on the door from when the tenant had gone on holiday, before leaving switched off his electric.
He didn't know the community TV was powered on his meter!
Door kicked in, power back on, when he returned badgered out of the place.

I was offered that same flat with an option of cleaning it out myself, repairing the remains of the door, paying for everyones community TV at the knock down price of £95 a week.
What a bargain.

Don't go near that Landlord.