Alcohol yobs - what is the answer?

[derekgas]

Originally Posted by blazey

If adults reoffend after being in 'real' prisons and they supposedly have more intelligence (or at least thats the general view on this forum) what makes you think teenagers are going to suddenly behave?

That again is my point, the nearest 'real' prison to us is probably singapore or something, prison should mean punishment, not holidays, repeat offenders do so because they like being in prison, hard line, that's what's required, even not allowing them to talk to each other, thus not putting ideas in each others heads, no tv, make them read books, porridge and water if I had my way!

[panther]

they should be like the old days,
chaingang2ff8.jpg, chain em up and make em work!

[derekgas]

This is what is actually proposed, but not by the government I hasten to add.
Respect - Homepage
Not a single mention of anything that is likely to work!

[panther]

a good hiding might

[blazey]

If prison is so wonderful then why dont homeless people commit offences to get these luxuries?

[cashman]

Originally Posted by blazey

If prison is so wonderful then why dont homeless people commit offences to get these luxuries?

a lot seem to,theres always people in papers No Fixed Address.

[blazey]

Originally Posted by cashman

a lot seem to,theres always people in papers No Fixed Address.

Well there are more with addresses than without. I think its ridiculous to suggest it's an easy ride in prison.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by blazey

Well there are more with addresses than without. I think its ridiculous to suggest it's an easy ride in prison.

there will be cos there many more people have addresses.

[blazey]

Originally Posted by cashman

there will be cos there many more people have addresses.

You'd think that they'd avoid prison because they have a roof over their head and most of the 'luxuries' that prison provides.

There are millions of homeless people and they all dont break the law yet prison is apparently so much better? I'm sure homeless people have common sense. If prison is so brilliant then why isn't there a much greater number of homeless offenders?

I never see homeless people in the newspapers committing terrible murders. You'd think it'd be brought to the medias attention if it happened that often. Can imagine David Cameron saying he wants to deport all the homeless criminals if we vote for him...

[cashman]

the only thing prison takes away is freedom as for murders most mass murderers do seem to have addresses, many are also commited by "family" or people known to victims, but there is still quite a few doing time of no fixed address. some homeless people do have common sense, many though are winos/alkies, etc, i know quite a few n all have been inside a few times, n the scrounging gits usually tap me for the price of a beer or whatever.

[derekgas]

Originally Posted by blazey

If prison is so wonderful then why dont homeless people commit offences to get these luxuries?

Even homless people have hope, they do the lottery etc and have there freedom, prison would remove that option. I often try to think of a way to defend your responses, because that is how I am, but I have to say, you make it bloody hard most of the time.

[jackyalex]

Originally Posted by hedman2003

What about parental responsibility? we can blame the police, schools, the courts etc but the principles of respect comes from the home.

How can parents allow their teens and younger to drink and come home smashed out of their brains and can't be bothered.

the lack of respect within the community is not restricted to young people when I see parents effing and jeffin to their kids in makes me very concerned for my kids as they grow up

parents can allow it due to the parents always being drunk or/and out of their head on drugs too, the parents are the ones who buy the drink for the kids to get them out of their hair. We are now getting into 2nd 3rd and 4th generation idiots who have never worked, so the kids do as the parents do. I say ban the benefits to the parents and ban alchohol altogether and drugs

[flashy]

i think the only answer to this question is, give the little ******* a slap and make them do community service

[jackyalex]

Originally Posted by flashytart

i think the only answer to this question is, give the little ******* a slap and make them do community service

Take their socks away from them, they would never leave the house

[flashy]

nah if they are chavs then take there gold, they definately wouldnt leave the house then