All The Best To You Graham

[Neil]

Originally Posted by g jones

I've spoken at length about the bus station over many years. I called for the new station to be on the current side of town.

Just because I agree to do an event, post a tweet or the papers give a story prominence doesn't automatically make it my priority.

What was the outcome of the meeting? WHo was getting the blame for the fighting?

Seeing as you brought it up I would be interested to know who you think is to blame?

[cashman]

Originally Posted by g jones

I've spoken at length about the bus station over many years. I called for the new station to be on the current side of town.

Just because I agree to do an event, post a tweet or the papers give a story prominence doesn't automatically make it my priority.

I accept it may not be a priority the Gaza stuff, But WHY? has there never been a public meeting about the new bus station? which to me should be a priority.

[Margaret Pilkington]

There is a very simple reason Cashy......the powers that be have already decided and they do not want to get into such things as public meetings...after all it would allow the public to think that their views and opinions really mattered.(that would never do)
All that really matters in situations like this is money...not whether the service user are going to be served or happy.

[g jones]

Originally Posted by cashman

I accept it may not be a priority the Gaza stuff, But WHY? has there never been a public meeting about the new bus station? which to me should be a priority.

I exhausted every argument at the time Cashy. There were several public meetings. I went to most of them.

[g jones]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

There is a very simple reason Cashy......the powers that be have already decided and they do not want to get into such things as public meetings...after all it would allow the public to think that their views and opinions really mattered.(that would never do)
All that really matters in situations like this is money...not whether the service user are going to be served or happy.

Totally inaccurate. Sorry Margaret, just saying it how it was.

[g jones]

Originally Posted by Neil

What was the outcome of the meeting? WHo was getting the blame for the fighting?

Seeing as you brought it up I would be interested to know who you think is to blame?

People who kill other people are to blame in short. There's a distinct lack of humanity.

It has been within Israel's gift to accelerate the peace process.

I've have met Regev, Allon and Abass privately and toured the West Bank with the UN.

Compromise is far more difficult when influential people on both sides hold fundamentalist views.

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by g jones

People who kill other people are to blame in short. There's a distinct lack of humanity.

It has been within Israel's gift to accelerate the peace process.

I've have met Regev, Allon and Abass privately and toured the West Bank with the UN.

Compromise is far more difficult when influential people on both sides hold fundamentalist views.

Perhaps this should have been pointed out to Tony Blair prior to GWII, but with regard to Gaza -if Hamas stopped firing rockets, albeit inaccurate and therefore more likely to result in civilian casualties, then there is every likelihood that Israel will cease the retaliation.
Britain is unlikely ever to be trusted politically by the Arab Nations as they still hold the "Balfour Declaration" of 1917 against the British as they see that as the birth of Israel and the support thereafter from the Western Nations.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Perhaps this should have been pointed out to Tony Blair prior to GWII, but with regard to Gaza -if Hamas stopped firing rockets, albeit inaccurate and therefore more likely to result in civilian casualties, then there is every likelihood that Israel will cease the retaliation.
Britain is unlikely ever to be trusted politically by the Arab Nations as they still hold the "Balfour Declaration" of 1917 against the British as they see that as the birth of Israel and the support thereafter from the Western Nations.

Sorry Barrie, but the causualty figures,make a mockery of yer more likely to result in civilian casualties comment,whilst i am no fan at all of Hamas, I often used to wonder as a lad,why 2 old WW2 soldiers i knew, used to say Hitler should have finished em off, I understand that comment now.

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by cashman

Sorry Barrie, but the causualty figures,make a mockery of yer more likely to result in civilian casualties comment,whilst i am no fan at all of Hamas, I often used to wonder as a lad,why 2 old WW2 soldiers i knew, used to say Hitler should have finished em off, I understand that comment now.

I agree Cashy, I don't have much sympathy for the Israelis - one only needs to read about the atrocities committed by the "Stern Gang" et al, on British troops. However, I do understand the retaliation by Israel, no different really than kicking back harder when someone kicks you.
I haven't heard what the UN Peace Envoy is doing about all this, perhaps he is making more noise (and money), on his lecture circuit.

[DAV007]

The UN is the world biggest talking shop, makes the EU look respectable!

[accyman]

im just wondering what the UN thinks a juniour MP whos party is not in power can actually do for them.Its all well the UN dragging our MP around to take a look at gaza but what exactly is it the UN thinks a MP from an out of power party can do about it.

arnt the grown ups in government from the party actually in power not already looking into this ?

should we adopt a similar policey and invite polititions from around teh world to hyndburn to take a look at our problems ?

[g jones]

Swamp of cynicism...

[Less]

Originally Posted by g jones

Swamp of cynicism...

Would you care to expand on that statement?

What is a swamp of cynicism?

Is it :-

A/ The UN.
B/ The EU.

Or no doubt having read your previous posts,

C/ AccyWeb.

You really should learn to make yourself clear when wishing to part with your pearls of wisdom.

[accyman]

if this is a swamp i know who gets my vote as donkey

its about the only bloody vote he will ever get of mine again

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Perhaps this should have been pointed out to Tony Blair prior to GWII, but with regard to Gaza -if Hamas stopped firing rockets, albeit inaccurate and therefore more likely to result in civilian casualties.....

Have you seen the rockets they use? They are nothing more than big fireworks with explosives in them. No way they can accurately target anything and they indiscriminately fire them into Israel with little hope of hitting what they aim for