Allegiance to the Queen

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Doug

What! More bollocks from Westminster….Mandy, I respect your right of free will but would suggest that refusing to stand for any head of state irrespective of your persuasion is just pure bad manners, an head of state represents the people and by snubbing them, your subbing us, but it’s your right.

Wrong.

I was brought up to have good manners, but also to think for myself, and not be a sheep.

I certainly wasn't going to stand up for the wife of a man whose grandfather happened once to have been King.

I'd quite happily stand for an elected head of State, and if the people decided by voting, that that person happened to be the Queen, so be it.

I was brought up to respect all people.

Those, who by accident of their birth, should get no more, or less, respect than anyone else, in my opinion.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by garinda

Wrong.

I was brought up to have good manners, but also to think for myself, and not be a sheep.

I certainly wasn't going to stand up for the wife of a man whose grandfather happened once to have been King.

I'd quite happily stand for an elected head of State, and if the people decided by voting, that that person happened to be the Queen, so be it.

I was brought up to respect all people.

Those, who by accident of their birth, should get no more, or less, respect than anyone else, in my opinion.

Pleased to hear it……..

[cashman]

as far as i have always been concerned Respect is Earned, not a god given right,call it bad manners but thats me.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Unless you're a direct descendent of a druid, on both your paternal and maternal side, repatriation is inevitable.

Oh come Rindi I'm Irish

[Doug]

I take a view that everyone deserves to be respected until such time that they relinquish that respect by their actions or inactions. I see all men as equal, but by the very nature of our existence recognise that some or more equal than others. I would show that respect to the Queen even as an unelected head of state because to me until she or her decedents or otherwise replaced she represents this country and its people and that act of showing respect is my respect being demonstrated to each of you.

Put it this way, if I was to go to war and made that sacrifice, I would not have died for the Queen, but for my country and her people. Despite the fact that it is shambolic the head of state is symbolic of the people, just my opinion.

[Less]

Originally Posted by garinda

Unless you're a direct descendent of a druid, on both your paternal and maternal side, repatriation is inevitable.

and if you are, all that inbreeding would make you Cashy's favourite word.....

A retard!

[beechy]

from what i remember as being a cub scout
we swore allegiance to the queen as did brownies etc
wonder if we got caught as terrorist we could be tied for treason
as those that werent in the cubs wouldnt

[MargaretR]

Gimmicky suggestions come thick and fast from Brown's cronies.
Makes me wonder whether this smokescreen of controversy is just to give the press something to print, so that the REAL 'shinanickins' aren't reported

Government by spin replaced with government by smokescreen

[Bonnyboy]

Swear allegiance to the Queen ?

Another gimmick in my opinion, a damned silly one at that.

Lord Goldsmith has lost the plot if he thinks this will give teenagers a “sense of belonging”

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy

Lord Goldsmith has lost the plot if he thinks this will give teenagers a “sense of belonging”
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ya honestly think these clowns were ever aware of the plot?

[Margaret Pilkington]

Not in a million years ! I think they live on a different planet to the rest of us.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Not in a million years ! I think they live on a different planet to the rest of us.

would be a great idea if they did.

[mani]

as an immigrant i think its a good thing

if they do adopt a pridesque thing similar to the americans then its a step forward. most other countries sing their national anthem or something first thign in school so why not?

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy

Lord Goldsmith has lost the plot if he thinks this will give teenagers a “sense of belonging”

Don't forget, this is the wise and learned person who told us that burglars have rights too, when the debate over whether householders had a right to protect thmeselves was at its height.

[pipinfort]

Originally Posted by Loz

What a load of rubbish!
Most kids won't even give two hoots about the queen, how the hell does swearing an oath to the queen prove your Britishness anyway?
The royals are an outdated institution and personally would rather we didn't have them at all.

Could`nt have put it better myself. Well Said