Am I losing my religion?

[andrewb]

After talking with entwisi about the new Apple iPhone, which seems amazing to say the least (but lets keep this on topic, can make an iPhone devotee thread elsewhere), I discovered that I really do hate certain aspects of Capitalism with quite a passion.

He brought up that it wouldn't be out in Europe for another year and we assume there will be blocks in place to prevent importing, much like Sony tried to stop the importing of PSP's from Japan, and won in the courts.

I feel its completely wrong, we should be able to obtain and use a product from another company if its usable here, not have it blocked if the only purpose of the block is marketing strategy for the company to increase profits.

Now see im fighting the liberal cause here, but the other side of the argument being that these companies, Sony, Apple, are just trying to make a living on their end too, but should they be doing that at the expense of other peoples liberties?

Its quite a hard subject because of course, without Apple or Sony we wouldn't have these products in the first place, but on the other hand their greed for more profits is driven by marketing strategy which usually sees a later European launch. Its just how they go about it that I personally have a problem with.

[steeljack]

same thing applies to the availibility prescription medicines

[SPUGGIE J]

Basic law of supply and demand. If its in demand and you can only supply a certain number then a higher price can be charged and people will buy. By making it rare and as they are a monopoly then they choose when to pass it on to the masses and with subtle marketing they create such a demand that people do pay the mad prices charged.


Does that make any sense to you?

[garinda]

Disillusioned with capitalism?

You'll be throwing away your blue rosette and spouting from Chairman Mao's Little Red Book next.

Don't forget that I foresaw this happening ages ago.

[SPUGGIE J]

Originally Posted by garinda

Disillusioned with capitalism?

You'll be throwing away your blue rosette and spouting from Chairman Mao's Little Red Book next.

Don't forget that I foresaw this happening ages ago.

The poor lad is looking for solice and an explination and you are sticking the boot in.

We all learn by our mistakes.

[steeljack]

Originally Posted by garinda

Disillusioned with capitalism?

You'll be throwing away your blue rosette and spouting from Chairman Mao's Little Red Book next.

Don't forget that I foresaw this happening ages ago.

Ease up on the kid he's away at college being indoctrinated by all these sandal wearing, brown bread eating, corduroy jacketwearing left-wing commie types

[SPUGGIE J]

Originally Posted by steeljack

Ease up on the kid he's away at college being indoctrinated by all these sandal wearing, brown bread eating, corduroy jacketwearing left-wing commie types

Oh brain washed now I am with it.

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

Basic law of supply and demand. If its in demand and you can only supply a certain number then a higher price can be charged and people will buy. By making it rare and as they are a monopoly then they choose when to pass it on to the masses and with subtle marketing they create such a demand that people do pay the mad prices charged.


Does that make any sense to you?

Oh I know exactly why companies do it, im complaining that they're allowed to Speaking of which I have a business studies exam in 1.5hours on this subject

Garinda, im sure i'd be going the yellow way if anything

[WillowTheWhisp]

Of course people/companies can also price themselves out of the market by charging more than people are willing or able to pay - then if a rival can produce a more affordable alternative they lose the market completely.

[andrewb]

Just rivals can't produce alternatives because companies patent the best ideas. Like the apple ipod, its not the best mp3 player, but I have to admit its certainly the best interface I have used because of the click wheel, which nobody can copy.

Apple have 200 patents protecting technology on the iPhone

[Ianto.W.]

I think you should take holy orders Cyfr, the cut and thrust of business does not seem to be the path for you, it's not your religion you'll loose it's your mortal soul, the economics of Mr Mickawber don't apply in real life, only in fiction novels.

[steeljack]

Originally Posted by Ianto.W.

I think you should take holy orders Cyfr, the cut and thrust of business does not seem to be the path for you, it's not your religion you'll loose it's your mortal soul, the economics of Mr Mickawber don't apply in real life, only in fiction novels.

your just being a cynical owd sod the young un will be dis-illusioned with the real world soon enough

[Ianto.W.]

Originally Posted by steeljack

your just being a cynical owd sod the young un will be dis-illusioned with the real world soon enough

I am just trying to make life a little smoother for this nice young man, Before some large comglomerate decides to 'head' hunt him.

[LancYorkYankee]

Although I really don't see the interest in this modern technology for the price charged (my kids and their I-pods (what's wrong with the radio), kids with cellphones, etc.) I may have a solution.

When/if I make it over this spring, I'll slip a few of these must haves in my luggage for ya. Of course I'd have to make a handy profit (ya know Capitalism) (just kidding). I'd get em to you at my cost. Although, buying me rounds at the meet may be an acceptable tip!

No seriously, if this is an interest to anyone over there, just tell me what to get and I'd be more then happy to get em to ya!

Brian

[entwisi]

with the price of kit normally 1$=1£ on tech stuff this could be quite a saving. You do need to be careful though Brian, UK C&E will be very interested in a man coming over with 3 suitcases full of electronic stuff.