Am I Racist? - Page 12

shillelagh · 04-10-2006, 21:01

Nationalists - catholics.

Had to think about that one for you willow.

WillowTheWhisp · 04-10-2006, 21:04

Hmmm lol, doesn't sound much like 'unionist' does it?

Thanks shillelagh.

shillelagh · 04-10-2006, 21:07

your welcome willow

WillowTheWhisp · 04-10-2006, 21:14

I've just been waching David Dickinson tracing his Armenian roots and had to smile at his generalisation about people who have an "Armenian look" about them. Oooh David! How racist of you!

(yes I know it was stereotyping) A fascinating program and how amazing to find a long lost living cousin he never knew about.

garinda · 04-10-2006, 23:14

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

I've just been waching David Dickinson tracing his Armenian roots and had to smile at his generalisation about people who have an "Armenian look" about them. Oooh David! How racist of you!

(yes I know it was stereotyping) A fascinating program and how amazing to find a long lost living cousin he never knew about.

Yes, although he comes across as a bit of a dick-son, it was one of the most moving programmes in the series.

Paxman crying for the hard life his grannies hard life in a poverty stricken Glasgow tenement, was still the best one though.

shillelagh · 04-10-2006, 23:38

I havent watched any of the series at all. I keep forgetting its on!

WillowTheWhisp · 13-10-2006, 10:45

Someone just pointed out something quite hilarious to me about these two posts.

Can you guess what it is?

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

I am one of those who has friends of different ethnic origins and I have to actually stop and think about it because first and foremost they are human beings. One mixed race family I have to think hard to remember which one of the parents is which

but to be told it's a racist response for any of us to comment that we have friends of different races when we are accused of being racist is just as hurtful.

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Originally Posted by poppy

oh my god. what have I just read. you actually posted that. you have to stop and think coloured people are human beings.

disgusted!

Why does Poppy assume that I am white and that my friends are 'coloured' ?

Even if he had read it correctly, unless he knows me, there's nothing to say that I'm not Nigerian and the mixed race family could equally well be white Anglo Saxon and Native American!

The assumption of Poppy's couldn't have been .................

............ a racist one could it?

AccyJay · 13-10-2006, 13:00

Excellent point.

Bagpuss · 13-10-2006, 19:39

I think even a court of law would have cleared you now Willow, Poppy join the club you are now a convicted racist how do you plead?

poppy · 16-10-2006, 12:53

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Poppy join the club you are now a convicted racist how do you plead?

Now do I get invited to meetings?

What a defense. Someone suggests you might be racist so you all twist it about so the person asking is a racist and you are all squeaky clean. Do you know what the best bit is?

You believe yourselves.

WillowTheWhisp · 16-10-2006, 14:15

Well I believe me Poppy because I know I'm not a racist. I know I don't lump people of one race together under one umbrella and class them as inferior or superior to people of another race. I may well have objections to some things which some people do which may offend others. I do have objections to any kind of discrimination, including so-called positive discrimination. I believe all people should be viewed as individuals on their own merits.

If for instance we are talking about job applications then I have no time for the "ethnic/female/disabled/ageism" quotas. The best candidate should get the job whatever their age, sex, race, culture, perceived disadvantage or shoe size! If I want someone as a receptionist I see it as plain barmy to employ a deaf person who can barely speak. Don't laugh I know of it having been done. Perhaps they had a phone at their end which converted the speech to text but when they spoke it was extremely difficult to understand what was being said. I object to call centres in foreign countries for much the same reason. If I phone a helpline I want to be able to understand what is being said to me. If I was looking for a nightclub bouncer I don't think a seven stone weakling in a wheelchair would be of much use. If I wanted a driver on the other hand then anyone with a clean licence would fit the bill. It's just a case of common sense.

You still owe me an apology for misinterpreting my words and then falsely accusing me of something I hadn't said.

AccyJay · 17-10-2006, 10:50

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one Willow.

poppy · 17-10-2006, 15:39

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

You still owe me an apology for misinterpreting my words and then falsely accusing me of something I hadn't said.

you said it. you quoted it.

You want me to apologise? I take it you have decided I am white so I am human?

WillowTheWhisp · 17-10-2006, 16:38

The sad thing about this Poppy, is that I am now convinced that you are either hell bent on causing grief or perhaps even worse than that you are indeed unable to undertand that what I said is not what you think you read.

The real tragedy is that in real life people like you cause untold harm when they report to others the racism they perceive to exist, which is then retaliated against and we end up with all-out riots because some fool is actually unable to see that they have made a mistake.

Yes I said something which you misinterpreted and called me a racist for having said and I quoted it in order to clarify for others who may not have read the original post. What I said and what you threw your little horrified tantrum about are not one and the same thing.

Never at any time did I ever state that I had to remind myself that anyone was human. I said that I had to stop and remind myself who was which race because EVERYBODY is human! How you can see those two statements as meaning the same thing is beyond me.

As I said, you alone in your ignorance on this message board do not worry me so much as the thousands of other people of exactly the same mentality out there in the world who scream "racist!" at others where no racism exists and often where the person being condemned has made an anti-racist statement such as the MP who wanted to help her non-English speaking constituents to get further in their education by suggesting that teaching them English before they entered main stream school might help. How the blazes can that be a racist statement? Sadly it was taken as such and she was vilified for having dared to suggest it.

Now if I moved to Spain and my kids were going to attend a Spanish speaking school if the local MP suggested it would be a good idea for them to learn Spanish first and proposed that they be taught before entering the main stream education system I'd be all for it.

WillowTheWhisp · 17-10-2006, 16:41

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Originally Posted by poppy

I take it you have decided I am white so I am human?

I don't give a flying fig what colour you are. That has absolutely no bearing on any of this.