Annecy tragedy

egg&chips · 06-09-2012, 20:47

This terrible business in France smacks of professionalism to me. Does anybody else suspect Mossad involvement or am I being Mr Conspracy-Theorist?

cashman · 06-09-2012, 20:58

Whatever it is,it sure don't look random to me.

churchfcrules · 06-09-2012, 20:59

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Originally Posted by egg&chips

This terrible business in France smacks of professionalism to me. Does anybody else suspect Mossad involvement or am I being Mr Conspracy-Theorist?

why Mossad?, i did read that he moved from bahgdad in the 70's

and to leave 2 witnesses, is a bit shoddy, although they are 7 & 4, would have thought mossad, would have been a bit more clinical

but indications do point to "a professional" hit, i concur

egg&chips · 06-09-2012, 21:06

Why Mossad? Because they are (or have been) capable of similar activities to defend their state on foreign soil in the past and have the sheer brass to do it too. A middle east connection fuels my supposition, but I'm willing to admit that a recent viewing of "Munich" may be clouding my thought processes.

cashman · 06-09-2012, 21:10

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules

why Mossad?, i did read that he moved from bahgdad in the 70's

and to leave 2 witnesses, is a bit shoddy, although they are 7 & 4, would have thought mossad, would have been a bit more clinical

but indications do point to "a professional" hit, i concur

That we agree on, but i heard they only was in U.K. since 2002, if thats so were they been since 70s? would be interesting to know.

churchfcrules · 06-09-2012, 21:13

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That we agree on, but i heard they only was in U.K. since 2002, if thats so were they been since 70s? would be interesting to know.

that info was on bbc website earlier today, however these things only ever have sketchy details at the beginning of investigation, bbc new just said 2002, but some think it was earlier

Gordon Booth · 06-09-2012, 21:28

One target and three witnesses all shot in the head- that's professional although I saw something about 19 cartridge cases found- that doesn't fit.
Beating an 8 year old half to death does't fit either but perhaps that's a line even they couldn't cross.
A satellite engineer obviously high in his profession judging from where he lived- a lot of valuable info there.

churchfcrules · 06-09-2012, 21:38

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

One target and three witnesses all shot in the head- that's professional although I saw something about 19 cartridge cases found- that doesn't fit.
Beating an 8 year old half to death does't fit either but perhaps that's a line even they couldn't cross.
A satellite engineer obviously high in his profession judging from where he lived- a lot of valuable info there.

CAD designer, for a satellite company apperantley with "other" business interests,
and i saw something saying 15 cartridges and automatic pistol, was used

earlier in the day, 50 k away, a attempted carjacking, police are investigating possible link

apparently the cyclist, wasnt killed the same way as others????

kestrelx · 06-09-2012, 21:46

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

One target and three witnesses all shot in the head- that's professional although I saw something about 19 cartridge cases found- that doesn't fit.
Beating an 8 year old half to death does't fit either but perhaps that's a line even they couldn't cross.
A satellite engineer obviously high in his profession judging from where he lived- a lot of valuable info there.

Is it really worth speculating? It could be any number of people with a cause who've been training for years to do this sort of thing, for a whole number of reasons.

One female witness said she heard the gun shots occur in under 60 seconds.

churchfcrules · 06-09-2012, 21:51

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

Is it really worth speculating? It could be any number of people with a cause who've been training for years to do this sort of thing, for a whole number of reasons.

One female witness said she heard the gun shots occur in under 60 seconds.

full auto pistol, rate of fire approx 1000 rounds per min, couple of seconds tops

semi auto, as fast as you can pull the trigger, 15-20 shots approx1 every 3 seconds, long time that! try it, i dont mean with a gun, but bang, one elepahant, two elephant, three elephant

kestrelx · 06-09-2012, 21:54

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules

full auto pistol, rate of fire approx 1000 rounds per min, couple of seconds tops

semi auto, as fast as you can pull the trigger, 15-20 shots approx1 every 3 seconds, long time that! try it, i dont mean with a gun, but bang, one elepahant, two elephant, three elephant

Well the woman was just on the news she said it was over in less than 60 seconds, in her own words. But one report claims the victims were all shot in the forehead? How does that work out... oh sugar - I'm speculating...

churchfcrules · 06-09-2012, 21:57

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

Well the woman was just on the news she said it was over in less than 60 seconds, in her own words. But one report claims the victims were all shot in the forehead? How does that work out... oh sugar - I'm speculating...

close range, 3 head shots, less than 3 seconds

cashman · 06-09-2012, 21:59

Thing is kes the police are speculating at the moment, it seems to me anyway.

kestrelx · 06-09-2012, 22:04

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Originally Posted by churchfcrules

close range, 3 head shots, less than 3 seconds

How do you get them all looking in the same direction to get it in the forehead - as reports have said?

churchfcrules · 06-09-2012, 22:09

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

How do you get them all looking in the same direction to get it in the forehead - as reports have said?

temple would be classed as forehead i suppose, i took forehead has a generalisation/speculation

probably turn out to be false

or chest shots then finished off to make sure in forehead, still less than 60 sec