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25-03-2010, 07:36
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Re: Any Ideas how to get rid
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Originally Posted by steeljack
So what your saying is that the police have no actual authority to move undesirables along in the Arndale shopping center (private property) its the responsibility of some minimum wage security guard who has no legal powers of arrest ........
Yet at the same time Bars/Clubs/Nightspots are allowed to employ "thugs" who do 'stop and search' of young people entering their premisis (sp?) for 'illicit contrabend' ......something doesn't add up here
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I think the law would only become involved if it was something other than threspass on private property, such as public nuisance, or drunk and disorderly, etc.
The law needs changing.
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25-03-2010, 10:41
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Re: Any Ideas how to get rid
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I think the law would only become involved if it was something other than threspass on private property, such as public nuisance, or drunk and disorderly, etc.
The law needs changing.
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Your powers of observation have always astounded me Rindi, you should have gone into politics, or maybe not
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25-03-2010, 11:47
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Re: Any Ideas how to get rid
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Your powers of observation have always astounded me Rindi, you should have gone into politics, or maybe not
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Happily my ambitions were always a little loftier.
It must be so very disappointing to have political ambitions, and then fail, and have those dreams thwarted.
Do please feel free to share your own bitter experiences with us.
You're bound to find a sympathetic ear.
We're listening....
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25-03-2010, 11:49
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Re: Any Ideas how to get rid
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Your powers of observation have always astounded me Rindi
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If I can astonish just one simple soul a day, I feel what I do is justified.
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25-03-2010, 13:45
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Re: Any Ideas how to get rid
Can they not put a hasp/staple with a substantial padlock on the door. Then the "lodgers" would have to commit criminal damage to get in there - that is also breaking and entering/burglary.
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25-03-2010, 15:55
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Re: Any Ideas how to get rid
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If I can astonish just one simple soul a day, I feel what I do is justified.
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Your trouble is you like the sound of your own voice to much, why use one post when ten will do
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26-03-2010, 06:17
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Re: Any Ideas how to get rid
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Can they not put a hasp/staple with a substantial padlock on the door. Then the "lodgers" would have to commit criminal damage to get in there - that is also breaking and entering/burglary.
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That's the most sensible and logical solution. Force a situation where they either have to move on or break the law.
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26-03-2010, 08:09
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Re: Any Ideas how to get rid
OR even when they are in there, put the H/S on and they will have to break it to get out, then you call the cops as its still broken... lol
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26-03-2010, 10:04
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Re: Any Ideas how to get rid
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That's the most sensible and logical solution. Force a situation where they either have to move on or break the law.
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Of course its sensible but should you have to do it on your on property, the police say its not their problem, but if you take the law into your own hands on your own property they will intervene then, but the police don't even do anything about things happening in the public domain, it would have been quite easy for them to have baned the demo's in Bolton last Saturday but chose not to
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27-03-2010, 15:19
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Re: Any Ideas how to get rid
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27-03-2010, 15:56
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Re: Any Ideas how to get rid
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Your trouble is you like the sound of your own voice to much, why use one post when ten will do
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...and the post that I'm quoting of your's, is related to the subject of the thread how?
I might post a lot, but there's always a message in there somewhere. Unlike some people's banal posts, just commenting on other's thoughts, and adding little to the debate.
Perhaps we should do with those time wasters what some of us would like to do with the garden invaders.
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27-03-2010, 21:31
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Re: Any Ideas how to get rid
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Of course its sensible but should you have to do it on your on property, the police say its not their problem, but if you take the law into your own hands on your own property they will intervene then, but the police don't even do anything about things happening in the public domain, it would have been quite easy for them to have baned the demo's in Bolton last Saturday but chose not to
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Fitting a lock is taking the law into your own hands and something you shouldn't have to do?
Sorry but that makes no sense at all. Makes you sound like someone who would rather moan and complain than find a practical solution. You're sure you're not a politician?
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27-03-2010, 22:15
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Re: Any Ideas how to get rid
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Fitting a lock is taking the law into your own hands and something you shouldn't have to do?
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Er........ run that by me again please !!
So if I don't do it who will ? I'm sure the Plods have got loftier things to do than put a padlock on my Shed !!
a more concise explanation would be helpful there Hiddlebit !
Last edited by DaveinGermany; 27-03-2010 at 22:17.
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28-03-2010, 00:28
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Re: Any Ideas how to get rid
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Er........ run that by me again please !!
So if I don't do it who will ? I'm sure the Plods have got loftier things to do than put a padlock on my Shed !!
a more concise explanation would be helpful there Hiddlebit !
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Where does the law stand on chastity belts?
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28-03-2010, 06:46
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Re: Any Ideas how to get rid
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Er........ run that by me again please !!
So if I don't do it who will ? I'm sure the Plods have got loftier things to do than put a padlock on my Shed !!
a more concise explanation would be helpful there Hiddlebit !
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It's not my logic you're having problems with. It's Jaysays. When I supported the idea of fixing a lock on a shed, he described it as taking the law into your own hands...which is barmy, frankly.
As you say, Dave, it's something you have to do yourself. And if you do, and some hairy-arsed criminal comes along and breaks or damages it, the police have no choice then but to act because a crime has then been committed.
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