Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?

[Bernard Dawson]

Originally Posted by g jones

Quick story about Bernard and Peter. Peter often says in public he loathes Bernard (but I think it is anything red to be honest).

One day Bernard asked a question at Cabinet and Peter said;
"I am not taking that question from you Bernard sat in that seat." (He was on the front row in a half empty room).

"I am afraid you'll have to sit another seat before you can put your hand up again".

Graham. I never did get to ask that question.

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by g jones

Quick story about Bernard and Peter. Peter often says in public he loathes Bernard (but I think it is anything red to be honest).

One day Bernard asked a question at Cabinet and Peter said;
"I am not taking that question from you Bernard sat in that seat." (He was on the front row in a half empty room).

"I am afraid you'll have to sit another seat before you can put your hand up again".

Good Grief - our affairs are in the hands of a megalomaniac control freak
(apparantly/allegedly and all that PC/libel laws permit)

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by garinda

Amazing how you know what years I was living, and paying Council Tax, in Wandsworth.

Did you use the Freedom of Information Act to find out, so you could quote an accurate figure?

The 80's of course. You've told me before. It is interesting how, the council you praise so much, for having the cheapest council tax, has actually seen greater increases than Hyndburn council. What can I say, an excellent council, as rated by the audit commission.

[claytonender]

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Andrew will you be asking for FOI about the black hole that HBC are pouring money into - the Leisure Trust? Or do you only request information to use against the Labour Group? Also when you have the list of all councillor's expense claims for 2007 /08 will you be publishing all the figures?

Maybe you also need to ask why there are no dog bins in Peel ward despite the ward councillors and residents requesting them. before you dispute this I should inform you I have a full list of the location of all dog bins on the borough. Incidentally Peter Britcliffe denies the fact that there are no dog bins in Peel ward.

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by Robert Owen

Graham. I never did get to ask that question.

You should have changed seats then

[garinda]

Originally Posted by andrewb

The 80's of course. You've told me before. It is interesting how, the council you praise so much, for having the cheapest council tax, has actually seen greater increases than Hyndburn council. What can I say, an excellent council, as rated by the audit commission.

Well this is where you begin to look more than a lttle foolish, by stating more things as fact, when they're simply not true.

I never lived in Wandsworth in the 1980's.

Fact.

So you are wrong.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

Well this is where you begin to look more than a lttle foolish, by stating more things as fact, when they're simply not true.

I never lived in Wandsworth in the 1980's.

Fact.

So you are wrong.

...and for someone supposedly intelligent you obivously missed the couple of posts where I'd stated that I'd paid Poll/Council Tax in Lambeth, and paid Council Tax in neighbouring Wandsworth, which of course wasn't introduced until 1993.

I understand you wouldn't have taken much interest at the time, and would probably have been happily watching the Teletubbies, but the fact remains, your assumption and figures would have been wrong because you looked at the wrong decade.

2/10 Must try harder.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by garinda

Well this is where you begin to look more than a lttle foolish, by stating more things as fact, when they're simply not true.

I never lived in Wandsworth in the 1980's.

Fact.

So you are wrong.

well i aint trawling back through 380 plus posts, but i'm sure that something labours bin accused of quite a few times.

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by garinda

...and for someone supposedly intelligent you obivously missed the couple of posts where I'd stated that I'd paid Poll/Council Tax in Lambeth, and paid Council Tax in neighbouring Wandsworth, which of course wasn't introduced until 1993.

I understand you wouldn't have taken much interest at the time, and would probably have been happily watching the Teletubbies, but the fact remains, your assumption and figures would have been wrong because you looked at the wrong decade.

2/10 Must try harder.

I got it wrong. My humble apologies Garinda.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by andrewb

If you carry a knife, you should be locked up. Plain and simple. If you carry a knife, you carry the intent to use it.

I don't agree with that.

I drive a car and could kill you with it. Do you want me to be locked up because a drive with the intent of doing something.

People who use a knife to stab someone should be locked up for a long time, maybe 10 years or more without early release. I think that would be a bit deterrent when these young people start seeing there friends locked up.

What about under age people carrying knives? That is as much a problem as over 18 year olds.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by blazey

To be fair it's completely ludicrous that we should have to request the information in the first place. It should be simply accessible without having to ask.

It should be a right to have access to this information, not a permission.

That is a good point. All the account information should be available on the Council Website for everyone to see. It would save all the administration time dealing with FOI requests on the subject. Why are FOI's free? It costs money to pull all the information together.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by claytonender

What about the minibuses with potentially unsafe second hand rear seats? Other authorities insisted that the minibuses passed a very rigourous test immediately, but Peter Britcliffe allowed them 6 months to satisfy the safety test.

Are you saying these minibuses are unsafe to be on the road? If so the Police can take them off the road.

If you are saying that new regulations have been brought in to enhance the safety of minibuses that is different altogether.

If new regulations have been brought in and they are retrospective then I agree you need to allow a reasonable amount of time for people to modify there minibuses.

Please can you explain more about this. I am very keen on seat belts on all vehicles. I think buses should have seat belts and that no one should be allowed to travel on a bus without a seat belt. We have all seen the TV adverts where the back seat passenger kills the front seat one - it must be the same on a bus.

[claytonender]

Originally Posted by Neil

That is a good point. All the account information should be available on the Council Website for everyone to see. It would save all the administration time dealing with FOI requests on the subject. Why are FOI's free? It costs money to pull all the information together.

That is a very valid point, I also agree with your post regarding Knifes.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by garinda

How can the 'Tories be tripped up' on here, when they don't have the courage of their convictions to join the public debate?

It must be your life's quest to get them on here mate, you are always trying to get them on.

Do you really think it would benefit local Government if we had both sides trying to pull each other to bits bits in public? We are not American

[Bernard Dawson]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

You should have changed seats then

I don't think it would have mattered where a sat. Peter Britcliffe really doesn't want to listen to anybody with different opinion to his own.