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21-02-2009, 00:44
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
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Originally Posted by claytonender
Well this councillor is now sigining off as it is well past her bedtime.
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C'mon it's only 7:30 pm
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21-02-2009, 10:10
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
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Originally Posted by Robert Owen
Sorry about that, but it really ought be on the councils website. I'll look into it, but I can't think why information like that isn't on the website.
The point about Chief Executives salary,the bigger the authority the bigger the salary. Hyndburn over the years has struggled to keep its top officers. We just can't compete with much bigger authorities.
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And some of um we didn't want to keep anyway
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21-02-2009, 12:30
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
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Originally Posted by shakermaker
Rather than being an ideological debate forum, we have candidates who are on opposite cheeks of the same hairy ass.
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So where does that put the independents?
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21-02-2009, 14:55
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
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Originally Posted by Neil
So where does that put the independents?
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in a bit of a hole Neil
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21-02-2009, 17:25
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
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Originally Posted by Neil
The amount of money he gets in expenses has nothing to do with subsistance. The issue for me is that he should not have to spend his own money when away on business. I don't and I don't think anyone should have to.
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I said right at the begining of the 'Living off the fat of the land thread' that no one should be out of pocket whilst undergoing public duties.
The ironic thing is that thanks to Jaysay 'releasing' the information that Cllr. Britcliffe actually spent £12.30 on his evening meal whilst in London, that that would have been comfortably covered by the increases recommend by the independent body as an evening subsistance allowance.
Some councillors chose to ignore the independent recommendation, and more than doubled the old allowance.
If they'd have accepted the independent body's recommendation, which we now know thanks to Jaysay would have easily been sufficent, there would have been no headlines in the press, no outraged letters in the papers, and no threads relating to councillor's allowances and expenses on here.
Hell, there wouldn't even have been the quote from Cllr. Britcliffe, to write a guide book if anyone knows of anywhere in London blah, blah, blah.
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21-02-2009, 17:40
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
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Originally Posted by garinda
I said right at the begining of the 'Living off the fat of the land thread' that no one should be out of pocket whilst undergoing public duties.
The ironic thing is that thanks to Jaysay 'releasing' the information that Cllr. Britcliffe actually spent £12.30 on his evening meal whilst in London, that that would have been comfortably covered by the increases recommend by the independent body as an evening subsistance allowance.
Some councillors chose to ignore the independent recommendation, and more than doubled the old allowance.
If they'd have accepted the independent body's recommendation, which we now know thanks to Jaysay would have easily been sufficent, there would have been no headlines in the press, no outraged letters in the papers, and no threads relating to councillor's allowances and expenses on here.
Hell, there wouldn't even have been the quote from Cllr. Britcliffe, to write a guide book if anyone knows of anywhere in London blah, blah, blah.
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Just out of interest how much is the allowance currently for an evening meal?
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21-02-2009, 17:50
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
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Originally Posted by turkishdelight
Just out of interest how much is the allowance currently for an evening meal?
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It's reported the old level was 'just over £10', and is now £25.
I've no doubt that an increase was probably due, as the independent body also found. After all even with low inflation the price of everything else has also gone up too.
The problem came about when some councillors chose to ignore the independently arrived at limit, and set their own.
Which by any standard, especially in these financially challenging times, is a massive percentage increase.
I bet nurses, and lots of other important key workers, wish they too could vote to award themselves similar massive rises.
Council makes a meal of rises - News - Accrington Observer
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21-02-2009, 18:14
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
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Originally Posted by garinda
It's reported the old level was 'just over £10', and is now £25.
I've no doubt that an increase was probably due, as the independent body also found. After all even with low inflation the price of everything else has also gone up too.
The problem came about when some councillors chose to ignore the independently arrived at limit, and set their own.
Which by any standard, especially in these financially challenging times, is a massive percentage increase.
I bet nurses, and lots of other important key workers, wish they too could vote to award themselves similar massive rises.
Council makes a meal of rises - News - Accrington Observer
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Thanks for you reply. I wanted to compare with what other indivduals i know receive for an evening meal allowance the figure is the same. I believe one should produce a receipts in relation to this.
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21-02-2009, 18:40
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
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Originally Posted by turkishdelight
Just out of interest how much is the allowance currently for an evening meal?
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Prior to the recent increase the allowance for an evening meal was £10.24.
This is a link to the member's allowances for Hyndburn Borough Councilllors - page 6 gives the rates meal allowances. (Incidentally page 8 gives the rate of Member's Allowances for the 2008 to 2009 municipal year.
http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...sScheme_1_.pdf
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21-02-2009, 20:08
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
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Originally Posted by garinda
I said right at the begining of the 'Living off the fat of the land thread' that no one should be out of pocket whilst undergoing public duties.
The ironic thing is that thanks to Jaysay 'releasing' the information that Cllr. Britcliffe actually spent £12.30 on his evening meal whilst in London, that that would have been comfortably covered by the increases recommend by the independent body as an evening subsistance allowance.
Some councillors chose to ignore the independent recommendation, and more than doubled the old allowance.
If they'd have accepted the independent body's recommendation, which we now know thanks to Jaysay would have easily been sufficent, there would have been no headlines in the press, no outraged letters in the papers, and no threads relating to councillor's allowances and expenses on here.
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And possibly no clocking up Air Miles (Post Count) in single posts as opposed to multiple quote posts....Andrew...show him how to do it will you?
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21-02-2009, 20:09
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
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Originally Posted by claytonender
Prior to the recent increase the allowance for an evening meal was £10.24.
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What was all that guff about from Cllr. Britcliffe about 'under' a tenner then, if that was the old allowance?
£10.24 would have purchased his mentioned hot dog and Coke, with enough change spare for Spotted Dick and custard.
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21-02-2009, 20:10
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
The booklet named vision that is delivered through individuals doors costs the Labour county council 350,ooo pounds. I ask the question could this money not be put to a better use? Is this not a waste of finances?
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21-02-2009, 20:13
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
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Originally Posted by turkishdelight
The booklet named vision that is delivered through individuals doors costs the Labour county council 350,ooo pounds. I ask the question could this money not be put to a better use? Is this not a waste of finances?
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Perhaps your polling card, which clearly shows the ward you live in, got hidden in a copy of Vision.
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21-02-2009, 20:19
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
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And possibly no clocking up Air Miles (Post Count) in single posts as opposed to multiple quote posts....Andrew...show him how to do it will you?
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Unlike you post, the post you quoted of mine, was relevant to the thread's subject.
Rather than posting silly remarks that have nothing to do with the issues being discussed, in threads that have a very real importance to people concerned with our local issues, perhaps you could look for an expat forum in your own locality, which might have some relevance to your own life, and stop you from trolling threads here.
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21-02-2009, 20:20
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Re: Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew?
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Perhaps your polling card, which clearly shows the ward you live in, got hidden in a copy of Vision.
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Garinda......Answer the Bl..dy question....You can fence all you like but you can't hide.
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