Anyone made a secret Freedom Of Info request about me ? Andrew? - Page 72

garinda · 23-02-2009, 22:13

By the way, I totally refute the claim I am anyone's 'sparring partner'.

As a purely independent observer of the comings and goings of life, with no political allegiance to any party, I'm free to speak all by my lonesome.

garinda · 23-02-2009, 22:15

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Originally Posted by Robert Owen

I have been in meetings this afternoon with the leader of the council. And I feel compelled to tell you that he was in a real mean mood. Something as obviously upset him.

Perhaps they should rewrite that saying to...

'Keep your friends close, but your close friends closer still.'

Royboy39 · 23-02-2009, 22:16

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Originally Posted by garinda

By the way, I totally refute the claim I am anyone's 'sparring partner'.

As a purely independent observer of the comings and goings of life, with no political allegiance to any party, I'm free to speak all by my lonesome.

And so is everyone else on this forum.

garinda · 23-02-2009, 22:33

I always say that if you're going to shoot yourself in the foot, you might as well shoot the other one as well.

So at least you end up with symmetrical injuries.

g jones · 23-02-2009, 22:49

I owe Andrew a small apology. The Council email I got said an FOI had been put on (just) me by Andrew Barratt and the answer I received only contained my ex's, no-one else's.

Upon clarification, I now know Andrew submitted an unclear question and later a second clear question asking for ALL councillors ex's. I apologise to Andrew for believing he was targeting just me. He asked about Conservative, Labour, Independent Councillors.

I'll leave it up to Andrew (who'll receive the answers tomorrow) to decide whether to publish all, part or none of the information he has received.

In short they will say, 7.5% of Council Tax goes on allowances (2% of overall expenditure). £278,000 in allowances. This figure does not include expenses. £88,000 goes to 17 opposition Councillors, £190,000 to 18 Conservatives.

Expenses will include Conferences, Hotels, Travel. Mileage per month, Childcare and Mobile phone expenses. These may make interesting reading.

cashman · 23-02-2009, 22:53

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

That has got to be the most stupid statement I have read in my life.
Mean bone in your body? You are the most vindictive individual I have ever come across. I fail to understand why you put so much store on the information on someone who you obviously dont like as opposed to the waistful and costly expenditure of the Government and the expenses of the EU representatives who are costing you, as a taxpayer your hard earned money?
Get real and direct your observations to the ones that are costing you a bloody fortune in taxes rather than someone who is costing no more than a train ticket.
Stop posturing and use your obvious wit, or lack of it it, to the problems and costly expenditure that involves us all.

out of all these 1000 n odd posts, that is the most inaccurate of all.

ClarePritchard · 23-02-2009, 23:01

Andrew, I'll save you the job of publishing mine, in 2007/2008 I claimed basic allowance and a Special Responsibility Allowance for being Secretary of the Labour Group, this came to a total of £4960.93

ClarePritchard · 23-02-2009, 23:03

with no claims for conferences, hotels, travel, mobile phones, mileage allowance or childcare

shakermaker · 23-02-2009, 23:39

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Originally Posted by g jones

I owe Andrew a small apology. The Council email I got said an FOI had been put on (just) me by Andrew Barratt and the answer I received only contained my ex's, no-one else's.

Upon clarification, I now know Andrew submitted an unclear question and later a second clear question asking for ALL councillors ex's. I apologise to Andrew for believing he was targeting just me. He asked about Conservative, Labour, Independent Councillors.

Better late than never, eh. Andrew posted this info ages ago.
I hope you got him a card and some apology choccies, too.

katex · 23-02-2009, 23:41

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Originally Posted by g jones

I owe Andrew a small apology. The Council email I got said an FOI had been put on (just) me by Andrew Barratt and the answer I received only contained my ex's, no-one else's.

Upon clarification, I now know Andrew submitted an unclear question and later a second clear question asking for ALL councillors ex's. I apologise to Andrew for believing he was targeting just me. He asked about Conservative, Labour, Independent Councillors.

Good on ya' Cllr Jones .. a true gentleman.
Still does not negate my opinion that Andrew was up to no good though ..

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Originally Posted by ClarePritchard

with no claims for conferences, hotels, travel, mobile phones, mileage allowance or childcare

Why not ? Did you not need to... or are you just a martyr and pay them out of your own back pocket ? Can't be doing with them ! Sets a precedence for those councillors who cannot afford not to claim ..

cashman · 24-02-2009, 00:03

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Originally Posted by katex

Why not ? Did you not need to... or are you just a martyr and pay them out of your own back pocket ? Can't be doing with them ! Sets a precedence for those councillors who cannot afford not to claim ..

Disagree kate, nowt to do with being a martyr, in over 20 yrs i never claimed ("most") of what i was entitled (different arena) but was still entitled to em, n it sets no precedence at all in my experience, people than started in that field 15/17 yrs after me claimed em no problem. good man G.J. fer holding yer hand up, i agree with kates first paragraph though.

katex · 24-02-2009, 00:11

Well, you must have been a wealthy man then Cashy not to claim expenses. They are there to allow a lower paid 'working man' to become a councillor without any hardships so that they can get on with their position, rather than worry about money.

Not claiming, if you have used these services in the role of Councillor, is just self-satisfying smugness in my opinion and leads others on the road to guilt trip for doing so.

cashman · 24-02-2009, 00:29

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Originally Posted by katex

Well, you must have been a wealthy man then Cashy not to claim expenses. They are there to allow a lower paid 'working man' to become a councillor without any hardships so that they can get on with their position, rather than worry about money.

Not claiming, if you have used these services in the role of Councillor, is just self-satisfying smugness in my opinion and leads others on the road to guilt trip for doing so.

i agree that people who need em should always claim em n would be annoyed if they did not, thing is ya don't know everybodys circumstances n neither do i, therefore i will not speculate on that.

garinda · 24-02-2009, 00:37

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Originally Posted by katex

Well, you must have been a wealthy man then Cashy not to claim expenses. They are there to allow a lower paid 'working man' to become a councillor without any hardships so that they can get on with their position, rather than worry about money.

Not claiming, if you have used these services in the role of Councillor, is just self-satisfying smugness in my opinion and leads others on the road to guilt trip for doing so.

I agree. I've said umpteen times already that legitamate allowances are there so people can carry out whatever work they're doing, in the private or public sector, so that no one person should be out of pocket.

If people chose not to use their allowance they are free to do so. Just as conversley people have every right to claim them, both legally and morally.

No problem.

My beef is the continuing rises of allowances, above and beyond independently recomended limits.

My advice to whoever thought this was a good idea, given the severe global financial crisis, is don't ever apply for a job in P.R., should you ever be seeking new employment.

cashman · 24-02-2009, 00:40

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Originally Posted by garinda

I agree. I've said umpteen times already that legitamate allowances are there so people can carry out whatever work they're doing, in the private or public sector, so that no one person should be out of pocket.

If people chose not to use their allowance they are free to do so. Just as conversley people have every right to claim them, both legally and morally.

No problem.

My beef is the continuing rises of allowances, above and beyond independently recomended limits.

My advice to whoever thought this was a good idea, given the severe global financial crisis, is don't ever apply for a job in P.R., should you ever be seeking new employment.

thats everyones beef............ except those of blue persuasion.