Apology - Page 2

shillelagh · 16-06-2010, 17:24

nope .. what im saying is now let it rest .. dont go after the soldiers to prosecute em .. they've got what they wanted they were proved to be innocent .. and now to let them rest in peace ..

i meant the money it cost to hold the enquiry ...

DaveinGermany · 16-06-2010, 17:49

SHYLOCK:
The pound of flesh which I demand of him Is deerely bought, 'tis mine, and I will haue it.

It should have been left in the past !! Now, will the Murderers reciprocate ???

Eric · 16-06-2010, 17:53

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Originally Posted by shillelagh

nope .. what im saying is now let it rest .. dont go after the soldiers to prosecute em .. they've got what they wanted they were proved to be innocent .. and now to let them rest in peace ..

i meant the money it cost to hold the enquiry ...

Prosecute the soldiers! Don't tell me that this was actually considered

or is being considered. Anyone remember "Apocalypse Now" ... and the line that went something like: arresting someone for murder in this mess is like handing out speeding tickets at Indianapolis. Sheesh, gimme a break.

Margaret Pilkington · 16-06-2010, 18:01

Yes, I am sure that I heard that a file would be sent to the DPP in Ireland for them to decide whether to prosecute the Paras.

DaveinGermany · 16-06-2010, 18:23

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Originally Posted by Eric

Prosecute the soldiers! Don't tell me that this was actually considered

or is being considered. Anyone remember "Apocalypse Now" ... and the line that went something like: arresting someone for murder in this mess is like handing out speeding tickets at Indianapolis. Sheesh, gimme a break.

That could well be the case, here's the report, chapters 14,15 & 16, seem to be the most indicative of these intentions.

Saville pins the blame for Bloody Sunday on British soldiers - Home News, UK - The Independent

Barrie Yates · 16-06-2010, 19:38

What a can of worms to open. Lots of relatives and injured people could well be suing Sinn Fein and the IRA - I hope.
When you are in a combat zone and you hear the first round fired you look for a possible target and fire at it. You pray to your God that you have made the right decision maybe, but when you realise it is all over you thank Him that you are still alive and that maybe you got the enemy.

garinda · 16-06-2010, 20:02

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Originally Posted by shillelagh

nope .. what im saying is now let it rest .. dont go after the soldiers to prosecute em .. they've got what they wanted they were proved to be innocent .. and now to let them rest in peace ..

i meant the money it cost to hold the enquiry ...

I know what you meant, about the money.

It's bought some quite a few feathers, to furnish their lavish nests.

Bloody Sunday rich list: Country houses, French estate, and wealth of the lawyers who charged fees of £100m | Mail Online

setayas · 16-06-2010, 23:04

Gives you an idea of the times.
Maybe it was an operational mistake....if so apology given.
Maybe it was a reaction....................??????????????????.

setayas · 16-06-2010, 23:17

Oh sorry, forgot, what was that about mcguiness and an SMG?

Eric · 16-06-2010, 23:18

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Yes, I am sure that I heard that a file would be sent to the DPP in Ireland for them to decide whether to prosecute the Paras.

So they try them pour encourager les autres, and those who set policy and had the responsibility for command get off scot free

... seems like there is no shortage of bs over there, with the real culprits probably covering their asses big time.

Mancie · 17-06-2010, 21:39

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Don't see why any government should apologise for something it had nothing to do with. Whatever the shortcomings of the present government, most of 'em were probably attending school, when the Bloody Sunday incident took place.

I would, however, like to see Blair and his odious henchmen apologise for the deaths of British servicemen and others in Iraq, caused by their contemptible decision to go to war...wouldn't you, Mancie?

I don't think there's any harm done by making apologies for events, when it has been made clear that a Government, or any person has committed what has been found to be a crime.
As far as the Iraq war goes, it was/is a war and I don't recall anyone apologising for any wars.
I am not taking the side of rioters and support our troops but we should at least apologise when innocent people are killed..even if it is by mistake.

cashman · 17-06-2010, 21:43

How many innocents did the I.R.A. kill mancie? a damn site more n there leaders don't make apologies, but GET REWARDED. so why should the brits have to?

Mancie · 17-06-2010, 21:50

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Originally Posted by cashman

How many innocents did the I.R.A. kill mancie? a damn site more n there leaders don't make apologies, but GET REWARDED. so why should the brits have to?

two wrongs don't make a right.. the IRA were murdering scum no better than Al-qauda...if any of them did make an apology it may be, I say may be, a small comfort to the relatives of those killed simply by being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

cashman · 17-06-2010, 21:55

Bloody Sunday was 1 wrong n have great sympathy fer those who lost people, but sorry the I.R.A. had 100s of wrongs, so it don't wash at all wi me.

Wynonie Harris · 17-06-2010, 21:59

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Originally Posted by Mancie

I don't think there's any harm done by making apologies for events, when it has been made clear that a Government, or any person has committed what has been found to be a crime.
As far as the Iraq war goes, it was/is a war and I don't recall anyone apologising for any wars.
I am not taking the side of rioters and support our troops but we should at least apologise when innocent people are killed..even if it is by mistake.

Why should the government apologise for something it had nothing to do with? By contrast, the previous Labour government had everything to do with the totally unjustified invasion of Iraq which led to the deaths of British servicemen. What a pity your red blinkers blind you to the injustice of that.