Are cars getting too powerful - Page 2

madmal_1 · 07-03-2007, 00:10

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Originally Posted by shillelagh

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/surrey/6422215.stm

http://motoring.aol.co.uk/840000-bug...06094309990001

Are cars getting too powerful? Who needs to go 0 - 60 in 2 1/2 seconds?
Id hate to be the insurer for this car. According to the aol report he'd rented the car - for £20,000 for the day! Who'd pay that much to rent a car? Someone wanting to show off isnt it. But surely they should have made sure that the person who was renting it could handle a car with all that power. I know i couldnt.

that guy as more money than since

jedimaster · 07-03-2007, 04:35

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooo!

never!

more power - gimme gimme gimme
*drool drool*

entwisi · 07-03-2007, 08:19

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Originally Posted by Neil

Sorry but that is a poor excuse for speeding Ian. Cars should be and will eventually be limited on bhp.
The excuse will be enviromental not safety but I do think it will happen. Will you still feel the same about your car when the duty on LPG is increased more in line with petrol? After all both are fossil fuels. I know LPG burns cleaner but LPG only give's out 20% less CO2 than petrol and CO2 emission's are the current green buzz words.

Not an excuse to speed at all. faced with a lorry coming at me througfh teh central res(And I've seen it happen a few times) I'd like to be able to shove that foot down and get out the way. Cars won't be limited on bhp for forseeable future, there aren't even any rumours, black boxes for speeds won't happen due to privacy. Also you will often find that the larger engined cars are actualy more environmentally friendly when it comes to emissions than a lot of small cars. There are some Mercs/Saabs and volvos that driven through london actually filter the air and put out less crap than they sucked in. Electric vehicles just move the production of emissions from the exhaust to the power station, there is no evidence that they would actually make any difference whatsoever to the overall emissions figure. Then there is teh life cycle of teh car itself. over 75% of teh emissions that a car is responsible for throughout its life come from manufacture and recycling. I'm a high mileage user (current vehicle is at 170K miles and I'm aiming for >250K )so I actually get the most out of the total emissions cost

LPG duty will not increase for at least 4 years. The LPG used in the UK is a by product of the extraction of oil. About 75% of what comes out is actually burnt at the rig as we don't have a market to use it. The more LPG vehicles, the more efficient the whole oil extraction process becomes

20% is still a significant figure and when you add particulates and NOx to the mix its a massive saving. However more importantly, you also seem to be missing the whole point about emissions. With the rate of growth in China at the moment if the WHOLE of Europe stopped producing a single molecule of CO2 today, China would fill the gap left in less than 4 years. It is effectively useless to say that we are helping without the world reigning in the likes of China and USA.

K.S.H · 07-03-2007, 10:51

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Originally Posted by entwisi

a lorry coming at me througfh teh central res(And I've seen it happen a few times)

You wanna try being in the lorry, not a nice feeling I'll tell you

tadah · 07-03-2007, 11:30

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Originally Posted by Neil

Sorry but that is a poor excuse for speeding.

Ok so what is your excuse? Or do you mean to tell me that you have Never gone over the speed limit at anytime?

entwisi · 07-03-2007, 11:46

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Originally Posted by K.S.H

You wanna try being in the lorry, not a nice feeling I'll tell you

Mmm, sat 'inside' the 38 ton artic or sat inside the 3/4 ton tinfoil microcar (that people seem to want us to be all driving) that your about to obliterate .

I know where I would rather be.

Neil · 07-03-2007, 13:04

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Originally Posted by entwisi

With the rate of growth in China at the moment if the WHOLE of Europe stopped producing a single molecule of CO2 today, China would fill the gap left in less than 4 years. It is effectively useless to say that we are helping without the world reigning in the likes of China and USA.

I think I stated somewhere else on here that our Government should change it's policy on global warming. We should state that we, as a little country are going to do nothing to reduce our emissions until the big countries like USA, Russia and China do. After all, like you said Ian, it makes no difference on a global scale what we do. All our efforts are doing in reality is killing off our heavy industry and manufacturing. This moves industry to places like China where they make the same emissions as we were before we shut down the factories. Global warming policy is therefore costing us jobs, increasing the cost of living and not helping the global environment.

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Originally Posted by tadah

Ok so what is your excuse? Or do you mean to tell me that you have Never gone over the speed limit at anytime?

No excuse, I just think it is strange that the Government allow cars on the road that can break the national speed limit in second gear. Of course I break the speed limit every day I travel too and from work. I never said that I agree with the speed limit or what I thought cars should be limited too.
Don't even get me started on why we should ban motorcycles.

tadah · 07-03-2007, 13:16

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Originally Posted by Neil

No excuse, I just think it is strange that the Government allow cars on the road that can break the national speed limit in second gear. Of course I break the speed limit every day I travel too and from work. I never said that I agree with the speed limit or what I thought cars should be limited too.
Don't even get me started on why we should ban motorcycles.

Yes ok but what is your excuss for speeding?

***Mr D*** · 07-03-2007, 13:18

Cars are getting more powerfull, engineering advancements but I wouldnt say too powerfull.

Speed insome cases can save lives.

As speed increases at least safty also follows suit.

What a waste of a NICE car.

tadah · 07-03-2007, 13:23

And did anyone read the sun today? They really do just pluck figures out of nowhere dont they. Apprently it can only do 230MPH erm no it can do 256MPH and its italian not french mr editor.

entwisi · 07-03-2007, 13:26

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Originally Posted by Neil

Don't even get me started on why we should ban motorcycles.

More fun than you can handle eh?

Or the fact that some are close to breaking 100mph in FIRST gear and we can't have that

entwisi · 07-03-2007, 13:30

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Originally Posted by tadah

And did anyone read the sun today? They really do just pluck figures out of nowhere dont they. Apprently it can only do 230MPH erm no it can do 256MPH and its italian not french mr editor.

Actually Bugatti is owned by VW so its actually technically German

and Bugatti was actually a french company

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron

garinda · 07-03-2007, 13:31

In your grandchildren's time all this will be irreleavant, as fossil fuels will be so scarce and expensive that only the rich will be able to travel further than you can walk.

Now is a good time to invest in bicycles or buy horses.

tadah · 07-03-2007, 13:33

Well why does eveyone say its italian? Ive never heard it be called french before.

entwisi · 07-03-2007, 13:42

Rindy, did you not see the episode of Top Gear where they powered cars on cow poo & human poo? If theres one thing certain in life like death and taxes, its poo

Then there are all the other sources of bio fuel, farmers today could stop being given subsidys and told to put those fields over to rapeseed, they can create enough biodiesel to power all the UKs diesel requirements. Only Shell etc would then stop bankrolling the political parties and they'd all be bankrupt overnight.