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Old 17-06-2013, 07:45   #16
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it could be an elaborate hoax though
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Old 17-06-2013, 07:49   #17
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Think the one thing missing of C'mons poll is yes, no, or am I a divvy
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Old 17-06-2013, 11:26   #18
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Old 17-06-2013, 12:51   #19
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Clearly a long way from WW3

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USA having no credible enemies anywhere in the world and a military spend several times the rest of the world put together means no WW3 anytime soon.

Think back to the good old days that you so hark after Stan, the world was truly f'ed up by our grandfathers. Not only could they not build cars or run industries, they failed completely when it came to keeping the peace.
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Old 17-06-2013, 12:55   #20
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No that wasn't our grandfathers, Twas yer Tory mates. Don't insult people who had no option but to go to war.
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Old 17-06-2013, 13:57   #21
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Wasn't a political statement, merely an observation about how messed up the world was back then.

However if you want to bring politics into the mess our grandfathers made we can. The Liberal party was in charge throughout WW1 were they not ?
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Old 17-06-2013, 14:20   #22
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Its you that were insulting the memory of ordinary people, Folks like you make me want to puke.
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Old 17-06-2013, 14:28   #23
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Wasn't a political statement, merely an observation about how messed up the world was back then.

However if you want to bring politics into the mess our grandfathers made we can. The Liberal party was in charge throughout WW1 were they not ?
Yes it was messed up back then, but not by the ordinary folk, perhaps you should understand that though you may call your Grandfather around here the memory and sacrifices made by the Accrington Pals are still revered.

Most of whom had worked in a thriving quality cotton industry and High class engineering associated with that trade. They weren't rubbish tradesmen they were amongst the best.
They were sacrificed in the great war and the survivors let down afterwards.
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Old 17-06-2013, 14:58   #24
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Wasn't a political statement, merely an observation about how messed up the world was back then.

However if you want to bring politics into the mess our grandfathers made we can. The Liberal party was in charge throughout WW1 were they not ?
You are out of order blaming our Grandfathers for WW1 & WW2, it was not our Granfathers fault, but the upper class power hungry greedy barstewards that ran the countries involved, and their off spring are still at it.
And don't you dare mention the Accrington Pals except with reverence and gratitude, without their scarifices we would have had no tomorrow.
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Old 17-06-2013, 15:02   #25
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Ordinary folk aren't messing things up today either Less. You've got to have power or wealth or both to have a large scale impact on society.

Tsar Nicholas was such a bad military commander that he sent over a million men to their deaths. He and his family were murdered for it mind you, but he's a good example of bad decision making in that half century. One of many.

Retlaw - read the text again. You won't find mention of Accrington Pals by me anywhere. Not guilty of the charge of treason.

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Old 17-06-2013, 15:08   #26
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Ordinary folk aren't messing things up today either Less. You've got to have power or wealth or both to have a large scale impact on society.

Tsar Nicholas was such a bad military commander that he sent over a million men to their deaths. He and his family were murdered for it mind you, but he's a good example of bad decision making in that half century. One of many.
Thank you, but I don't need a history lesson from you.
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Old 17-06-2013, 15:19   #27
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If you think the Tories were in charge then you do.

WW1 was a liberal government and WW2 was a national unity government. Churchill was an independent MP at the start of the war, and he took up the job to lead an all party unified government that was needed at the time. Chamberlain resigned because he could not carry all party support. He was leader of the Tories who had a sizeable house majority, but Labour would not back him. One of the few examples of a quality labour decision.

Churchill became a Tory, but was not one at the outset of the war.
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Old 17-06-2013, 15:55   #28
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If you think the Tories were in charge then you do.

WW1 was a liberal government and WW2 was a national unity government. Churchill was an independent MP at the start of the war, and he took up the job to lead an all party unified government that was needed at the time. Chamberlain resigned because he could not carry all party support. He was leader of the Tories who had a sizeable house majority, but Labour would not back him. One of the few examples of a quality labour decision.

Churchill became a Tory, but was not one at the outset of the war.
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USA having no credible enemies anywhere in the world and a military spend several times the rest of the world put together means no WW3 anytime soon.

Think back to the good old days that you so hark after Stan, the world was truly f'ed up by our grandfathers. Not only could they not build cars or run industries, they failed completely when it came to keeping the peace.
Well above is your post that had Cashy saying it was the Tories, as you can see you didn't specify which generation of Grandfathers but you did mention the car industry the cock ups in that came a little later than WW1 in fact, extremely post WW2.

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Wasn't a political statement, merely an observation about how messed up the world was back then.

However if you want to bring politics into the mess our grandfathers made we can. The Liberal party was in charge throughout WW1 were they not ?
Moving the goal posts in the next of your posts you then narrowed your field to WW1. (No doubt in an attempt to throw cashy off the scent).

However nowhere have I stated a belief that the Tories were in power during that time.

So, if inaccuracies can creep into your posts from the same day (to suit your purpose), what trust can we put in anything else you claim to be a fact?

Perhaps next time you wish to talk history you won't mix over fifty years of it into one lump, meanwhile may I repeat,

I don't think I need a history lesson from you thank you.
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Old 18-06-2013, 00:12   #29
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First have of the 20th century circa 70m people died in ww1 and ww2. Period was also one of industrial decline throughout, as Accy can well attest.

Hardly something to be proud of.
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There's 'trouble at t'mill' - If you voted to say that world war wasn't near, you might think otherwise now.

Chemical warfare is immoral and inhumane - though no war is 'moral', especially when the causes/excuses are fabricated.

Before you decide whether 'intervention in Syria' is 'morally justified' you should be aware that there is some evidence that the chemical attacks were not carried out by the Assad regime.

The Daily Mail article was not on line for long in January and was 'stored and cached' by persons who want you to know.

U.S. 'planned to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad' | Mail Online

Cached Copy of Scrubbed Article Confirming US and UK Backed Chemical Weapons in Syria | 2012 The Big Picture

It appears that we have a situation similar to the fabricated WMD scenario that we were 'fed' a while back.
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