are we heading to world war 3

[Boeing Guy]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

It was on the BBC News today (which gives it credence in the eyes of those who believe the BBC with out question) that the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia are providing weaponry to the rebels to over throw Assad.

You omit to say that the Syrian Government have made this claim, not the BBC, after all the job of any journalist is simply to report.
It is interesting that you still question the validity of the BBC, would it be better if I watched Al Jazzera? or even your personal favorite channel*, the Russian State Propaganda Machine, Russia Today?

Any chance of a link of this 'fact' being reported by the BBC? It seems not to be on their website and as such I am not able to verify your facts

The sad reality is simple, innocent people are being killed, the Syrian Regime has the the weaponry and the desire to use chemical warfare. They would of course try to bluff their way out of it, it's propaganda. The Russians have a Naval base in the Syrian port of Tartus, which shows whose side they are on.

Should we sit on the sidlines and let people die for no good reason, Neville Chamberlain might have, but it does not make it right.


*You started a thread called 'Russia Today V the BBC News!' dated, 01/05/2013, heck you even argued with me about the validity of RT's reporting on a few posts, you gave up after a while, but in case you forgot your opening post was

Does anyone watch the freeview news channel Russia Today?

RT

It's worth watching as it gives a totally opposite view to the BBC or British Brainwashing Corporation; perception of news events!

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

You omit to say that the Syrian Government have made this claim, not the BBC, after all the job of any journalist is simply to report.
It is interesting that you still question the validity of the BBC, would it be better if I watched Al Jazzera? or even your personal favorite channel*, the Russian State Propaganda Machine, Russia Today?

Any chance of a link of this 'fact' being reported by the BBC? It seems not to be on their website and as such I am not able to verify your facts

The sad reality is simple, innocent people are being killed, the Syrian Regime has the the weaponry and the desire to use chemical warfare. They would of course try to bluff their way out of it, it's propaganda. The Russians have a Naval base in the Syrian port of Tartus, which shows whose side they are on.

Should we sit on the sidlines and let people die for no good reason, Neville Chamberlain might have, but it does not make it right.


*You started a thread called 'Russia Today V the BBC News!' dated, 01/05/2013, heck you even argued with me about the validity of RT's reporting on a few posts, you gave up after a while, but in case you forgot your opening post was

Your wasting your time BG, you'd be better off going outside and talking to the trees, you'd get more sense

[cashman]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Your wasting your time BG, you'd be better off going outside and talking to the trees, you'd get more sense

Seems to run in the family.

[cmonstanley]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Seriously......lets see, one minute your using ypur favorite medium, copy paste, to claim the world is about to end, then when cool heads prevail, you use the same to have a dig at the government.
Shame you never did this when your friends were in power, not once

the tory leadership wanted ed grew a set of balls and common sense prevailed ive always said the biggest mistake of the last government was Iraq. it wasn't the first time Britain went to war with Iraq the tories were in power then . I set up a democratic poll that was open to everybody I didn't claim it was going to be end of the world that's only in your head

[Boeing Guy]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

the tory leadership wanted ed grew a set of balls and common sense prevailed ive always said the biggest mistake of the last government was Iraq. it wasn't the first time Britain went to war with Iraq the tories were in power then . I set up a democratic poll that was open to everybody I didn't claim it was going to be end of the world that's only in your head

When did you first comment ypur distaste at your beloved Labour Governments stance on Iraq? You never once said a bad thing against them before the General Election.

I have not claimed the end is nigh, I suggest you get ypur facts right

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

the tory leadership wanted ed grew a set of balls and common sense prevailed ive always said the biggest mistake of the last government was Iraq. it wasn't the first time Britain went to war with Iraq the tories were in power then . I set up a democratic poll that was open to everybody I didn't claim it was going to be end of the world that's only in your head

Grew a pair???? Don't make me laugh!

Once again, he forced his MP's to vote the way HE wanted, no risk at all, what price democracy in the Labour party?. In fact maybe at the next election he should stand in every single seat, it would be more honest than a local Labour candidate claiming he would represent you if you voted for him.

Caligula allowed his senate more freedom than dunderhead Milliband allows his MP's.

[cmonstanley]

he did a clever counter move by bringing up this amendment to prove david Cameron and hague would lose the main vote.. I don't think its over yet . taxpayers money could be used arming the Syrian rebels whoever they are



David Cameron's support for Syria uprising questioned over top aide's links to rebels - Mirror Online

[cmonstanley]

Originally Posted by Guinness

Grew a pair???? Don't make me laugh!

Once again, he forced his MP's to vote the way HE wanted, no risk at all, what price democracy in the Labour party?. In fact maybe at the next election he should stand in every single seat, it would be more honest than a local Labour candidate claiming he would represent you if you voted for him.

Caligula allowed his senate more freedom than dunderhead Milliband allows his MP's.

you would probably say he was a weak leader if the majority never followed the whip

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

ive always said the biggest mistake of the last government was Iraq.

Heck...you mean to tell me that you criticised the last government....you might always have said that the biggest mistake of the last government was Iraq...but I don't recall you saying it on here.
In fact my recollections tell me that you were very quiet about the many failures of the last incumbents.

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

you would probably say he was a weak leader if the majority never followed the whip

On the contrary, I'm proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is a weak leader BECAUSE he has to use the whip.

He cannot debate his party into following him, so he uses the threat of deselection and career destruction. In any other employment situation he'd be in front of a tribunal for harassment!

[cmonstanley]

that's politics I think 99.9% of labour mps wouldn't care as long as they defeated Cameron and his cronies. they actually might be listening to the public lets hope they don't grasp defeat in the jaws of victory by supporting the supplying weapons to the Syrian rebels.

[Alan Varrechia]

On a lighter note.

[Alan Varrechia]

Or this angle.

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

that's politics I think 99.9% of labour mps wouldn't care as long as they defeated Cameron and his cronies. they actually might be listening to the public lets hope they don't grasp defeat in the jaws of victory by supporting the supplying weapons to the Syrian rebels.

Oddly enough you are almost correct.... it's actually 100% of Labour MP's that don't care that kids are being burned alive by incendiary bombs in their playgrounds or that people are being gassed on the street.... as long as they defeat Cameron and his cronies. Which is why the vote was forced the way it was yesterday.

Yet Graham Jones has been banging on about the 'heart rending' sights of the kids in poverty on his fact finding trip to Rwanda....

talk about double standards!

[Restless]

I think politics is best represented by people in forums like c'mon.... no wonder this world is effed