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View Poll Results: Which political party do you support?
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Conservative.
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9.43% |
Labour.
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32.08% |
Other.
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20.75% |
None.
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09-08-2007, 21:14
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Re: Are you political?
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Originally Posted by garinda
Twenty eight people bothering to vote in the poll, represents a fair amount of people who use the forum daily to post.
As for there being only three people who support the Conservative party so far, it's hardly my fault that so few of them can read and write.
As stated earlier, Acccy Web is here for everyone to partake if they so wish.
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It is here for all and everybody can post,you are quite right.As Mick said,it is not the people or the forum's fault if people choose not to do so.
I can read and write,clever me and there is at least one more Conservative voter that we know of who can both read letters in the Observer and write one back.Now that's muti-skilling! lol
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09-08-2007, 21:23
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Re: Are you political?
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I didn't put a closing date on it, though in only a few short hours the results show that politically we as a collective, have a wide range of views on Accy Web, and John Farrer's accusation of political bias here is rubbish.
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i doubt very much if he will have the balls to post here to substansiate or defend his allegation, i do not mind opposing views,but the spineless i detest. prove me wrong jaysay.
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09-08-2007, 21:23
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Re: Are you political?
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Only 28 people voted so far though... out of how many members? .Maybe the poll isn't showing that this is a Labour biased forum after all but there is certainly a lack of Conservatives on here,both councillors and voters.At the moment the floaters are ahead .
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There's something rather ironic when the word floaters is mentioned in a political thread
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09-08-2007, 21:29
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Re: Are you political?
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There's something rather ironic when the word floaters is mentioned in a political thread
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Floaters? Oh right I get you.You mean what you get when you flush the loo and it doesn't go down? Lol
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10-08-2007, 08:20
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Re: Are you political?
I have just read this letter and do not know how Mr Farrer can be so daft as to say what he has......am I wrong in thinking that there have been many threads which have criticised the current government....which is, if I'm not mistaken, a LABOUR government?????? If this were a hotbed of Labour folk, would this be happenening? Does this forum not demonstrate that we are all adults and quite capable of forming our own opinions?
And has Mr Farrer used the right terminology? He talks of people being 'disenfranchised'.......which on checking, I find means 'denied the right to vote'.......but if it means something wider, then I am ready to be educated.
I was under the impression that this was a public forum, and as long as you follow the rules which are laid down, then you are quite welcome to join.
I might even pen a reply to this letter myself.
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10-08-2007, 08:43
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Re: Are you political?
I voted none as there wasn't an option for "best of a bad lot"
I've voted both Labour and conservative in my time and think I am intelligent enough to see which is offering what I believe is the best balance of policies for my family and teh country as a whole.
Margaret, what I think he meant was apathetic. In that teh majority of people care little for teh political spectrum. This itself should be a BIG wakeup call that in peoples memory they can't see anything where the politicians have added value to society.
Politically I find it a shame that our Conservatives don't come on here. I often chat to Graham J as he visits his grandma and whilst I don't always agree with what he says I respect him for having the bottle to come on here and stand up for his views just as I believe that whislts at the time I didn't agree with her policies I respect Maggie for standing up to other countries and being prepared to be judged on what she believed was right. I was equally impressed that when I personally invited Graham to an Accyweb meet he came and brought another counciller with him. Anyone care to knock on PB's door and ask him too?
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10-08-2007, 09:03
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Re: Are you political?
Well, I am not sure apathetic covers what he said in the letter.......in a nutshell he was saying that anyone who didn't agree with the groundswell of opinion on here was 'disenfranchised'......but I think he meant something like frozen out.....but who knows what he really meant......only he can tell us that.
I think he made some very sweeping generalisations without putting up any evidence to support his claims.
I would respect him far more if he gave the relevant evidence for what he is saying.
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10-08-2007, 09:49
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Re: Are you political?
i dont vote,due to the last time i did vote,the party i wanted to vote for was not on the vote slip,i felt like i didnot have a proper choice of parties,everyone should have the choice of which party to vote for,it should not be a selected few depending on what area you live in
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10-08-2007, 10:05
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Re: Are you political?
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
Well, I am not sure apathetic covers what he said in the letter.......in a nutshell he was saying that anyone who didn't agree with the groundswell of opinion on here was 'disenfranchised'......but I think he meant something like frozen out.....but who knows what he really meant......only he can tell us that.
I think he made some very sweeping generalisations without putting up any evidence to support his claims.
I would respect him far more if he gave the relevant evidence for what he is saying.
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Cyfr has always been open that he is a Conservative, and though I don't always agree with what he says, I have the utmost respect for him, and his views.
It's a bit sad that a teenager is able to post his views on Accy Web, without fear of being 'disenfranchised', yet none of our Tory councillors have the courage to use this forum as a means of communication with the people of Hyndburn.
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10-08-2007, 10:21
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Re: Are you political?
Let's not forget this time last year, whilst he was still actively posting as Jaysay, John Farrer wrote another letter to the Obsever accusing Accy Web of being a place that was a 'vile tirade of pure hatred'
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...web-22265.html
Such a nice man, and not at all one given over to hyperbole.
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10-08-2007, 10:30
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Re: Are you political?
A bit bemused by John Farrer's viewpoint. It seems to me that the whole spectrum of political opinion is represented on Accyweb from left wing liberal to right wing reactionary. There are also a lot of people like myself who have strong opinions that don't really add up to a conventional polilitcal philosophy. There certainly isn't some kind of Accyweb manifesto that "disenfranchises" those who don't agree with it.
If there are only few Tories on here, it's because so few chose to join. Why don't party members come on here and fight their corner like Cyfr does? Would you care to explain why, John?
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10-08-2007, 10:34
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Re: Are you political?
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Accy Web has been accused in this week's Observer of being a Labour biased website.
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Thats only because we have some Labour Councillors and our MP who actually admit who they are when they come online.
It is about time some of the Tory majority in the Council registered as themselves and posted on here.
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10-08-2007, 10:38
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Re: Are you political?
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Originally Posted by Neil
Thats only because we have some Labour Councillors and our MP who actually admit who they are when they come online.
It is about time some of the Tory majority in the Council registered as themselves and posted on here.
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Yes, it's strange how some members join Accy Web using offical HBC email accounts based at Scaitcliffe House.
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10-08-2007, 10:54
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Re: Are you political?
I'm still bemused by the "disenfranchised" allegation. Like Margaret Pilkington, I think this chap needs to use a dictionary.
I wonder what life and experience has made of me? My mother's father was a Tory councillor who, after retiring from being Station Master at Church Station in the 1920s, owned a baker's shop run by my aunt. My father was a Socialist, despite being in business for over 40 years and being a member of a Conservative Club, who greatly admired Harold Wilson.
My husband was from a very Labour background but had Conservative leanings and I have tended towards Socialism/Liberalism for a lot of my adult life.
I have no political affiliations what so ever, I mistrust all of them. I guess I'm just a mongrel.
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10-08-2007, 10:54
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Re: Are you political?
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Originally Posted by garinda
Yes, it's strange how some members join Accy Web using offical HBC email accounts based at Scaitcliffe House.
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It is isn't it.
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