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Old 18-12-2009, 10:34   #31
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Jaysay, it's your opinion that the country has been screwed for 12 years. I think the country is a lot better than in 1997. That's only my opinion.
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Old 18-12-2009, 10:39   #32
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How much money was wasted on putting this calendar together?
All of it
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Old 18-12-2009, 10:52   #33
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I don't agree with the council sending out calendars. I however think it's petty of Labour councillors to ask for their details to be removed. The thing is already being produced and it seems a waste to retract councillors names from it. If you oppose it that's fine, shout it from the rooftops, but you may as well be on it if it's going out, for residents to see who all their councillors are and contact details rather than seeing some of their members because of political squabbling at Christmas.
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Old 18-12-2009, 11:08   #34
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How much money was wasted on putting this calendar together?

The cost of the calendar varies from area to area. Ossy's about just over £530, which is the biggest area. Then you have to add on the cost of delivering the calendar.
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Old 18-12-2009, 11:24   #35
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The cost of the calendar varies from area to area. Ossy's about just over £530, which is the biggest area. Then you have to add on the cost of delivering the calendar.
Mind you that does pale into insignificance when you look at the money Gordon has thrown down the drain
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Old 18-12-2009, 18:17   #36
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I don't agree with the council sending out calendars. I however think it's petty of Labour councillors to ask for their details to be removed....
I think I agree with you on that one
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Mind you that does pale into insignificance when you look at the money Gordon has thrown down the drain
Maybe but what could £530 have been used for in Ossy?

I wonder how much it would have cost to send every house hold a letter with the contact details on and other useful info instead?
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Old 18-12-2009, 18:30   #38
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Is there really any need to send this info out to residents? All the info can be obtained from the town hall.
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Is there really any need to send this info out to residents? All the info can be obtained from the town hall.
I am undecided about this. Not everyone knows how to contact there Councillor or why they might want to.

Maybe a letter saying who your local ones are and how to contact them. They could explain what they can help you with and add other useful number like dog warden, crimestoppers etc.
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Old 18-12-2009, 21:17   #40
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A letter is fine but would anyone keep it? With a calendar there is always the off-chance that some people might keep hold of it. Last year I went to an office in the Ribble Valley and they one of the Area Council calendars on the wall - proof that they are sometimes used.
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A letter is fine but would anyone keep it? With a calendar there is always the off-chance that some people might keep hold of it. Last year I went to an office in the Ribble Valley and they one of the Area Council calendars on the wall - proof that they are sometimes used.
A letter could better explain what the hell Councillors do or can do for you.

If you ask 10 people in the street what use is a local Councillor to you, how many do you think will have any idea at all?
Then ask them if they have ever spoken to there local Councillor except at election time. I would guess none of them will have.
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Old 18-12-2009, 21:59   #42
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That's a bit OTT to say Labour has screwed the country. The UK is a much better place now than it was in 1997. Education, health care, civil liberties, immgration laws, the number of people in work, protection for those in work. There is a book somewhere entitled 300 Labour gains. It makes you think how easily we forget at times what has been done.
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I don't agree with the council sending out calendars. I however think it's petty of Labour councillors to ask for their details to be removed. The thing is already being produced and it seems a waste to retract councillors names from it. If you oppose it that's fine, shout it from the rooftops, but you may as well be on it if it's going out, for residents to see who all their councillors are and contact details rather than seeing some of their members because of political squabbling at Christmas.
But surely if you are on it,when you don't agree with ratepayers money being used fer it, then it would look to many folk like you do? thats how i see it, n think its you thats being petty in that instance.
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But surely if you are on it,when you don't agree with ratepayers money being used fer it, then it would look to many folk like you do? thats how i see it, n think its you thats being petty in that instance.
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Old 18-12-2009, 22:36   #45
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But surely if you are on it,when you don't agree with ratepayers money being used fer it, then it would look to many folk like you do? thats how i see it, n think its you thats being petty in that instance.
Presumably they don't agree with it because it's an unnecessary waste (at least that is why I don't agree with it). It's even more of a waste if it is produced but with only half the councillors on.

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That's a bit OTT to say Labour has screwed the country. The UK is a much better place now than it was in 1997. Education, health care, civil liberties, immgration laws, the number of people in work, protection for those in work. There is a book somewhere entitled 300 Labour gains. It makes you think how easily we forget at times what has been done.
Education: 8th in international Maths league tables in 1997, now 24th.
Health Care: Very highly funded, not sure we have seen the full fruits of it though. Example the billions wasted on NHS IT system.
Civil liberties: Giving powers to councils to use terrorist-like surveillance on residents for trying to cheat catchment areas to get a better education for their children. Countless bodies allowed to enter our homes. A relentless pursuit of ID cards. Holding innocent peoples DNA against their will.
Immigration laws: More needs to be done. Jack Straw looked a fool on Question Time when he tried to argue that the rise of the BNP was nothing to do with Labour's immigration policy.
Number of people in work: 2.5 million people are unemployed, and that's according to official figures which hide much of the reality. 1 in 5 young people are out of work. Five million people have never had a job under Labour.

All this with double the deficit that the last Labour government left us with. In many peoples eyes, yes, Labour have screwed the country.
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