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Old 22-02-2010, 01:19   #61
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something interesting, re. oil drilling in the Falklands/Malvinas is the news that the Rig being positioned (Ocean Guardian ) is owned by a company called Diamond Offshore ,a company based in Houston Texas, not really a surprise to folks who have had worked in the oil business , but what may be of interest is the fact that this company previously operated under the name of Zapata oil
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interesting how the name of an ex US President is mentioned as one of the companys founders ..... so maybe/perhaps if the Argentines were to make some sort of military move, American 'influence' would be required to protect US 'property/assets


as the old saying goes ......"if you sup with the Devil best use a long spoon"
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Old 22-02-2010, 19:29   #62
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Well it looks like there is American influence involved already, why am I not really surprised. But could this also be part of the reason why Hugo Chavez has suddenly got up on his hind legs to do Monkey tricks for the Argentines, because prior to this "British Rig" arriving he has been awfully quiet.

The man has been the Venezuelan President since 1999 & is only now touting the Argentine Sovereignty of the Falklands, rather convenient timing it appears. I do believe a couple of years ago he had a chunter at the Americans (well Bush in particular) calling him "ignorant" "dangerous" & the most offensive a "Donkey".

Now though he's gobbing off about the Queen, not the most sensible person it appears. I don't think for one minute Her Maj will be choking on her Custard cream & Cuppa & calling Phil & the kids in to watch the funny little man on the Tele. The fact that he calls her Mrs Queen & telling her the days of Empire are gone & she should hand the Falklands over to Argentina. Foolish Foolish.
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Old 22-02-2010, 19:54   #63
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Well it looks like there is American influence involved already, why am I not really surprised. But could this also be part of the reason why Hugo Chavez has suddenly got up on his hind legs to do Monkey tricks for the Argentines, because prior to this "British Rig" arriving he has been awfully quiet.

The man has been the Venezuelan President since 1999 & is only now touting the Argentine Sovereignty of the Falklands, rather convenient timing it appears. I do believe a couple of years ago he had a chunter at the Americans (well Bush in particular) calling him "ignorant" "dangerous" & the most offensive a "Donkey".

Now though he's gobbing off about the Queen, not the most sensible person it appears. I don't think for one minute Her Maj will be choking on her Custard cream & Cuppa & calling Phil & the kids in to watch the funny little man on the Tele. The fact that he calls her Mrs Queen & telling her the days of Empire are gone & she should hand the Falklands over to Argentina. Foolish Foolish.
Well, at least he was on the money about Bush .... Francoise Ducros, aide to former PM Jean Chretien, was a Canadian heroine for a while, after calling Bush a "moron" .... which, by the way, is an insult to all morons.
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Old 22-02-2010, 21:03   #64
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If we really want to pee the Argies off, we should position our next rig which we send down there about 1 mile inside British Territorial waters (and hence just outside Argie waters) and then commence some slant drilling in a westerly direction.

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Old 22-02-2010, 22:32   #65
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Don't think they have forgiven us fer the "Belgrano" which is hardly suprising.
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Old 22-02-2010, 22:49   #66
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Don't think they have forgiven us fer the "Belgrano" which is hardly suprising.
Why, it was a warship so we sank it. I don't care if it was in the Irish Sea when we sank it. I don't buy into the "we will have a war but just in this bit of the sea" nonsense
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Old 22-02-2010, 22:52   #67
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If we really want to pee the Argies off, we should position our next rig which we send down there about 1 mile inside British Territorial waters (and hence just outside Argie waters) and then commence some slant drilling in a westerly direction.
They will soon suss that one out. Thats the same engineering they apply to the corned beef tins isn't it
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Old 23-02-2010, 02:03   #68
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They will soon suss that one out. Thats the same engineering they apply to the corned beef tins isn't it
Always thought that they should have special instructions on the label for folks who are drunk and stoned ... so you don't have to head for the g'radge and get the pickaxe.

However, if this crisis should come to a head, I forsee a diplomatic solution strongly favoring the UK ... if there is oil there, the Americans would much rather see it under the control of a stable (for now, anyway) ally. And if the Argentinians don't like it, then it's time for the military muscle ... we could rent you a few ships, for old times' sake. And you can take back that bunch of junk, HMCS Chicoutimi, that you unloaded onto us.
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Old 23-02-2010, 02:06   #69
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Oh, and Chicoutimi used to be HMS Upholder.
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Old 23-02-2010, 02:23   #70
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something interesting, re. oil drilling in the Falklands/Malvinas is the news that the Rig being positioned (Ocean Guardian ) is owned by a company called Diamond Offshore ,a company based in Houston Texas, not really a surprise to folks who have had worked in the oil business , but what may be of interest is the fact that this company previously operated under the name of Zapata oil
Zapata Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
interesting how the name of an ex US President is mentioned as one of the companys founders ..... so maybe/perhaps if the Argentines were to make some sort of military move, American 'influence' would be required to protect US 'property/assets


as the old saying goes ......"if you sup with the Devil best use a long spoon"
Seems like Malcom Glazer of Manchester United fame was quite heavily involved.
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Old 23-02-2010, 10:22   #71
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Why, it was a warship so we sank it. I don't care if it was in the Irish Sea when we sank it. I don't buy into the "we will have a war but just in this bit of the sea" nonsense
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Old 23-02-2010, 13:23   #72
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All this talk of a diplomatic solution is crap, the argies won't settle for anything less than total control.
If oil is found they will start pushing for control again. Any thought of putting them off with a promise of Royalties from any oil extracted, would be an admission that they have some claim on the Falklands.
As previously quoted on this thread the septics would prefer the oil is under British control.
A nuclear sub in the area might be a better deterent.
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What makes you think there is not one there already
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Old 23-02-2010, 15:37   #74
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What makes you think there is not one there already
cos P.B. woulda told us in the observer.
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cos P.B. woulda told us in the observer.
Not always, but he did tell me on the phone last night
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