Arrested before comiting a crime (Pre Crime) - Page 2

jaysay · 05-05-2011, 08:19

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Originally Posted by wadey

The original idea of Policing was to arrest people before they commited a crime

That was before the human rights act wadey

wadey · 05-05-2011, 09:29

Probably

" A constable may arrest without a warrant -

(a) anyone who is about to commit an arrestable offence;
(b) anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be about to commit an arrestable offence."

***Mr D*** · 05-05-2011, 12:32

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Unless you were present at the filming, how can you say they are real.
Reading about it on the Internet does not mean it's truth anymore than reading a newspaper.

I cannot 100% but what part/s are you saying are not real?

Quote:

Originally Posted by wadey

The original idea of Policing was to arrest people before they commited a crime

A "Crime" being a key word here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wadey

Probably

" A constable may arrest without a warrant -

(a) anyone who is about to commit an arrestable offence;
(b) anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be about to commit an arrestable offence."

Can you be more spesific on what is an arrestable offence?

I also dont think you need a warrant to arrest someone.

Boeing Guy · 05-05-2011, 12:39

Everything I have seen, I have no proof other than Youtube and some websites, so how can I believe this???

cashman · 05-05-2011, 13:18

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Everything I have seen, I have no proof other than Youtube and some websites, so how can I believe this???

Easy,cos MrD says

***Mr D*** · 05-05-2011, 17:04

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Everything I have seen, I have no proof other than Youtube and some websites, so how can I believe this???

I doubt you even watched the video's.

Believe what you want it makes no difference to me. What is it you cant believe though?

Here is another friend of mine Danny showing how pathetic things can be, 15 mins of police time wasted for nothing.

jaysay · 05-05-2011, 17:53

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

I cannot 100% but what part/s are you saying are not real?

A "Crime" being a key word here.

Can you be more specific on what is an arrestable offence?

I also dont think you need a warrant to arrest someone.

If a bloke is walking down the street towards a bank wearing a striped sweater and balaclava, with a sawn off shotgun under his arm I think the local plod would be quite within their rights to arrest this said guy for going equipped and do so without a warrant so long as they read him (or her) their rights. think that seems to cover it

***Mr D*** · 05-05-2011, 18:05

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Originally Posted by jaysay

If a bloke is walking down the street towards a bank wearing a striped sweater and balaclava, with a sawn off shotgun under his arm I think the local plod would be quite within their rights to arrest this said guy for going equipped and do so without a warrant so long as they read him (or her) their rights. think that seems to cover it

You DONT need a warrant to arrest someone.

The above is a silly example realy, just walking with a shotgun would get armed responce on the scene pretty quick I would say.

The Video's are people who said they where going to stage PEACEFULL demonstrations at the royal wedding, thats all, and got arrested in there own home (charley) or on the street (a senior Professor of Anthropology and friends being one) PRIOR to the event.

Pre Crime, but what was the crime they where going to commit? Is free speech not allowed in this country now?

Boeing Guy · 05-05-2011, 18:07

Mr D, I am afraid that we can never agree on this. I refuse to take seriously You Tube videos as evidence of 9/11, bin laden is alive, princess Di, Chemtrails, Bilderberg, Moon landing hoax, TWA 800 shootdown, I could go on. Just because it is on the internet does not make it true, you and others on here tell the rest of us we should question everything we see and hear, well I am questioning, so far apart from some videos, I do not see any hard physical evidence...
You see the problem is this, for every conspiracy theory that comes out, there is enough evidence to prove otherwise, in the case of some, Moon landing, Princess Di, TWA 800, 9/11 etc there is physical hard evidence, not you tube videos...

Enjoy

***Mr D*** · 05-05-2011, 18:17

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Mr D, I am afraid that we can never agree on this. I refuse to take seriously You Tube videos as evidence of 9/11, bin laden is alive, princess Di, Chemtrails, Bilderberg, Moon landing hoax, TWA 800 shootdown, I could go on. Just because it is on the internet does not make it true, you and others on here tell the rest of us we should question everything we see and hear, well I am questioning, so far apart from some videos, I do not see any hard physical evidence...
You see the problem is this, for every conspiracy theory that comes out, there is enough evidence to prove otherwise, in the case of some, Moon landing, Princess Di, TWA 800, 9/11 etc there is physical hard evidence, not you tube videos...

Enjoy

So would you believe it if it was on Sky News, In the Sun, Telegraph, spoken by a politician? You see to me these are no different than youtube. (All to be taken with a pinch of salt).

As for the video's in question, they are not a conspiracy theory just a recording of events that happened recently.

jaysay · 05-05-2011, 18:17

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

You DONT need a warrant to arrest someone.

The above is a silly example realy, just walking with a shotgun would get armed responce on the scene pretty quick I would say.

The Video's are people who said they where going to stage PEACEFULL demonstrations at the royal wedding, thats all, and got arrested in there own home (charley) or on the street (a senior Professor of Anthropology and friends being one) PRIOR to the event.

Pre Crime, but what was the crime they where going to commit? Is free speech not allowed in this country now?

You need permission to hold any sort of demo in this country, if you don't have said permission expect to be arrested, end of

Boeing Guy · 05-05-2011, 18:20

From Charlie Veitch's blog...

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Even my father, a conservative-hawk who watches Sky News and has old fashioned views supporting the Empire, now sees that September 11th was not as explained. I wasn’t there, and most probably you, the reader, were not there in Manhattan that day, but like the Swine Flu scare, we have no reason to trust the lies of the governments when we can see with our own eyes a building demolished and blown to pyroclastic smithereens…

The red bits by me

Now please can somebody please explain to me where FOUR large airlines loaded with passengers, baggage and fuel went to......maybe the Bermuda Triangle. Having visited Ground Zero and the museum there, well I know thr truth. Same can be said about the moon shot, having seen and touched a Saturn V rocket and spoken to the last man on the moon, I see no questionto ask.

Is Charlie a demolitions expert?
Has he had the rubble of the World Trade Centre tested by forensics?

What was he protesting about on the day of the Royal wedding?

Boeing Guy · 05-05-2011, 18:22

One simple difference, I watched the Twin Towers attack and for that matter the 7/7 bombings live on TV as they happened

jaysay · 05-05-2011, 18:25

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

One simple difference, I watched the Twin Towers attack and for that matter the 7/7 bombings live on TV as they happened

Me, you and millions more BG, but I bet it was a hell of a site more significant to you than most others, you being in the job as it were

DaveinGermany · 05-05-2011, 19:15

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

The Video's are people who said they where going to stage PEACEFULL demonstrations at the royal wedding, thats all, and got arrested in there own home (charley)

Pre Crime, but what was the crime they where going to commit? Is free speech not allowed in this country now?

Because your hero has got previous (listen in real carefully from about the 36 second point in the 1st clip you put up) he's been charged for a previous offence & as such is deemed likely to "re-offend" & that is the reason he's being pulled in.

Police powers

Points 3 & 10 should answer your question. So if something happened to you & yours or your property you'd be okay with it would you ? Especially if the scrote had form & was known to the Police, you'd not want him lifted ? I certainly wouldn't want to live in your world mate.