Artists in Accy? - Page 6

todbear · 20-06-2007, 17:31

Willow, I have seen a lot of your posts, on several different forums, if that is bad I like it. keep on keeping on. It all looks good to me.

Blazey, I am on an arts council in Dorset, I should like to give you just one piece of advice.
If you think it is art, that is enough we are all influenced by others, it is how we grow, and develop our own style.
Even Van Gogh was influenced by others on his journey. His art was jeered at and derided as total rubbish. Thanks be to all the gods he ignored it all as should you. As I said to Willow " Keep on keeping on" and S.O.D the rest.

davo69 · 20-06-2007, 17:49

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I dont understand, is this a question?

about your dad

WillowTheWhisp · 20-06-2007, 17:56

Thank you Todbear. I was beginning to wonder if I was a female version of Dr. Jekyl.

I've been thinking about art - mostly based on the conversation with my daughter's teacher and it seems that a lot of what students do these days is directed towards having them discover for themselves how to create a certain result and how artists went about acheiving theirs. I'm not sure whether what the students create during this process is actually intended to be art in its own right but hey, if you, we, they like it does it really matter? The exam results are what they are aiming for. It's just different to how it was in my day.

todbear · 20-06-2007, 18:28

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Thank you Todbear. I was beginning to wonder if I was a female version of Dr. Jekyl.

I've been thinking about art - mostly based on the conversation with my daughter's teacher and it seems that a lot of what students do these days is directed towards having them discover for themselves how to create a certain result and how artists went about acheiving theirs. I'm not sure whether what the students create during this process is actually intended to be art in its own right but hey, if you, we, they like it does it really matter? The exam results are what they are aiming for. It's just different to how it was in my day.

think you said it all Willow

WillowTheWhisp · 20-06-2007, 18:30

My daughter's totem pole is going on display at school. I'm not sure how long for but we were hoping to get it back.

MargaretR · 20-06-2007, 18:53

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My daughter's totem pole is going on display at school. I'm not sure how long for but we were hoping to get it back.

LOL Willow - what are you going to do with it ? (mobile phone mast by any chance?)

WillowTheWhisp · 20-06-2007, 18:54

I have absolutely no idea but I like it.

MargaretR · 20-06-2007, 18:56

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I have absolutely no idea but I like it.

Good enough reason - your daughter will know you value her effort.

Tin Monkey · 20-06-2007, 19:33

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The exam results are what they are aiming for. It's just different to how it was in my day,

Out of interest, do you actually agree with this Willow? By reducing everything, be it art or whatever, down to mere exam results, isn't there the chance that real talent is being supressed in the name of what passes exams?

Just a thought.

WillowTheWhisp · 20-06-2007, 19:44

I doubt it. They learn techniques and skills. If they have the artistic vision they are then able to use those techniques and skills to produce what they are aiming for. If there is a real artist in there it will come out.

Back in my day there was a girl in my class who had no vision of her own but could copy other people. It got her through her exams but after that she wasn't able to do anything in her own right. But then again she didn't want to.

As for me, I was always a bit of a rebel and tried to find new ways of doing things anyway which didn't always go down well.

Tin Monkey · 20-06-2007, 20:02

I understand what you are saying, but by only rewarding talents that fit the exam criteria, I believe that there is a lot of talent that goes to waste.

I think I'm becoming increasingly disillusioned with the education system, which is a shame.

garinda · 20-06-2007, 20:05

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Out of interest, do you actually agree with this Willow? By reducing everything, be it art or whatever, down to mere exam results, isn't there the chance that real talent is being supressed in the name of what passes exams?

Just a thought.

Art is taught at a higher level as an acedemic subject, so there are very probably Van Goghs and Cezannes slipping through the net.

Tin Monkey · 20-06-2007, 20:10

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Art is taught at a higher level as an acedemic subject, so there are very probably Van Goghs and Cezannes slipping through the net.

True, but it's not just art I'm thinking about. It's all kinds of disciplines.
It's been a long day at work.

garinda · 20-06-2007, 20:18

Well, I also agree with your earlier statement. Education should be about more than just working to pass examinations.

Going back to art, if you give enough chimpanzees a paint pot and a brush, soon one of them will come up with a Picasso. The same could be said if you give them a typewriter...eventually they'd write Hamlet.

Tin Monkey · 20-06-2007, 20:26

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The same could be said if you give them a typewriter...eventually they'd write Hamlet.

Wasn't that a play about a Danish pig?

I had heard the theories about the chimpanzees actually. I currently have 8 of them banging away on typewriters in my cellar. No Shakespeare yet, but they've just turned out Jeffrey Archer's next novel.