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26-09-2007, 20:39
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Re: Asda Is Going To Act – At Last.
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I never said that the Blue Badge covered the able bodied person and you know it. Or is this “putting words in my mouth” the only means you have of adding credibility to your point which is as wrong as you can get.
The Blue Badge is issued to a person to be used in ANY vehicle regardless of who is driving it. Whether that disabled person gets out of the vehicle is irrelevant.
If you are a blue badge holder then go and look up the terms of use. If you are not then stop spouting about something you know little about.
The real problem with these Blue Badge haters is that they are jealous and cannot stand to see anyone get something that they cannot.
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If you are a badge holder, it can only be used for your benefit. If a trip is for someone else and you are a passenger and staying in the vehicle, you cannot use the badge simply to let them benefit from free parking.
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26-09-2007, 20:40
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Re: Asda Is Going To Act – At Last.
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I never said that the Blue Badge covered the able bodied person and you know it. Or is this “putting words in my mouth” the only means you have of adding credibility to your point which is as wrong as you can get.
The Blue Badge is issued to a person to be used in ANY vehicle regardless of who is driving it. Whether that disabled person gets out of the vehicle is irrelevant.
If you are a blue badge holder then go and look up the terms of use. If you are not then stop spouting about something you know little about.
The real problem with these Blue Badge haters is that they are jealous and cannot stand to see anyone get something that they cannot.
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Actually Jambutty, Davo makes a very good point. Why if you are just giving somebody a lift should a disabled badge holder be allowed to take up a place reserved for somebody who is getting out and shopping in the store, and may have difficulty walking to the spot they have been forced to use, because of the individual's selfish action. That is no different than a disabled badge carrying taxi driver using it when s/he is dropping off a fare and then waiting for the next fare.
This is not jealousy this is annoyance at people who may be using the service as specified in the law, but not using it in the spirit intended.
Last edited by Stanaccy; 26-09-2007 at 20:48.
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26-09-2007, 20:42
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Re: Asda Is Going To Act – At Last.
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26-09-2007, 21:29
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Re: Asda Is Going To Act – At Last.
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The real problem with these Blue Badge haters is that they are jealous and cannot stand to see anyone get something that they cannot.
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I doubt that lad. If i had a choice of being able bodied or being disabled and get better parking i think id stay as i am thanks all the same.
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26-09-2007, 22:26
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Re: Asda Is Going To Act – At Last.
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Originally Posted by Aleks
I doubt that lad. If i had a choice of being able bodied or being disabled and get better parking i think id stay as i am thanks all the same.
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You must be quite old to call me lad.
It isn’t about choice and you know it. No one would choose to be disabled just to get the Blue Badge, but there are enough people around who resent the little extra that disabled people get and would like to see the Blue Badge discontinued.
That’s why we get such vociferous arguments about disabled parking with some downright silly reasons.
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26-09-2007, 22:31
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Re: Asda Is Going To Act – At Last.
If you read the argument you'll see that Davo is actually on the side of the disabled people in this. That is the disabled people who are not abusing the system!
Why have we got this debate going in two different threads?
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27-09-2007, 09:03
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Re: Asda Is Going To Act – At Last.
I took my Grandparents shopping at Morrisons every thursday when I lived in Suffolk,and my Grandad had the blue badge-could I find an empty disabled spot? nope! I think the amount of times I did I can count on the fingers of one hand.
So,I deposited them both at the entrance whilst I parked,and picked em up there at the end.We could usually find a wheelchair without much trouble thankfully.
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27-09-2007, 09:50
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think its a good idea, cannot abide selfish gits, so if they park where they shouldnt stuff em.
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27-09-2007, 10:00
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Re: Asda Is Going To Act – At Last.
so asda have parking bays for i quote "parent and child" so in theory my mum who is 83 and myself could use it as we are parent and child or a middle aged mum could use it with her 16 year old offspring how old does the definition child cover at asda.i know its streaching a point but perhaps as suggested in earlier posts that asda use ther own staff as parking wardens to enforce rule and clamp offenders and donate release fee,s to charity,it is only a thought but if you are getting clamped it makes you think b4 you do it again
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27-09-2007, 10:00
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Re: Asda Is Going To Act – At Last.
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do you really have nothing else better to do than complain and post the constat complaints on here?”[/FONT][/FONT][/SIZE]
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I didn't post this, but I agree completely. I hope we never have the misfortune to meet. You really are one miserable ******, with what appears to be an enormous chip on your shoulder.
As to having wider spaces for prams, etc, then fair enough, but why next to the door? Most parents of young children will be relatively young and well capable of walking a few yards to the store. It would make more sense to have OAP spaces next to the door, alongside the disabled spaces.
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27-09-2007, 13:57
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Re: Asda Is Going To Act – At Last.
Maybe the thinking behind the mother and toddler parking is so that a mother with a lot of shopping and one or more small children doesn't have the hassle of steering the trolley (never easy as trolleys always seem to have a mind of their own) and guiding children safely across a busy car park. Toddlers, being small, could be easily missed in the rear view mirror of a car pulling out of a space.
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27-09-2007, 18:43
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Re: Asda Is Going To Act – At Last.
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Because they are disabled and unable to walk any decent distance. So the parking bays, quite rightly, are placed as close to the entrance as is practical. In fact at Asda, Grimshaw Park, Blackburn there are many normal parking spots and all the mother and toddler places that are closer to the entrance than half the disabled places.
So you reckon that if a disabled person can walk around a supermarket they can also walk from a distant parking spot do you? Blue Badge holders get the badge because their walking distance is limited so to make them walk lengthy distances before even getting to the supermarket door is totally insensitive.
Many disabled people can just about manage a slow stroll around a supermarket but would be stumped if required to also walk from a distant parking spot. You would also do well to remember that whilst inside the building they have a trolley to lean on. Those trolleys can be as good as a Zimmer frame in aiding people to walk.
Just thank your lucky stars that you are not disabled and stop being such a selfish prig.
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i do know this!!
but some abuse this and have seen people with these badges and walking perfectly fine!
those are the ones i mean
my relative couldnt walk very far without being in pain and breathless, but he never got a badge, didnt get enough points or summat! thats what gets me mad!, i would love to know how they decide who gets one and who doesnt cuz to me its a load of B*****ks!!!
oh and thanks for bad karma
and im NOT a selfish prig!!! AngeryHit2.gif
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27-09-2007, 18:49
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Re: Asda Is Going To Act – At Last.
I think a lot depends on knowing what to write on the application and how to explain what the disabilities are. More a case of explaining what you can't do rather than explaining what you can do.
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27-09-2007, 19:50
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Re: Asda Is Going To Act – At Last.
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I didn't post this, but I agree completely. I hope we never have the misfortune to meet. You really are one miserable ******, with what appears to be an enormous chip on your shoulder.
As to having wider spaces for prams, etc, then fair enough, but why next to the door? Most parents of young children will be relatively young and well capable of walking a few yards to the store. It would make more sense to have OAP spaces next to the door, alongside the disabled spaces.
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I never said that you did.
However I did discover that I was unable to award someone with some negative Karma for his crass and insensitive comments about disabled drivers but the system wouldn’t allow me to. Could that have been because the system will not allow, for want of a better description, retaliatory negative awards? If that is the case then I know who the anonymous person was.
But if the best that you can do is to resort to name calling to make your point then you are to be pitied.
In any case what is wrong with complaining about an injustice. If you want to lie down and be walked all over go ahead. I don’t.
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27-09-2007, 19:58
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Re: Asda Is Going To Act – At Last.
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Maybe the thinking behind the mother and toddler parking is so that a mother with a lot of shopping and one or more small children doesn't have the hassle of steering the trolley (never easy as trolleys always seem to have a mind of their own) and guiding children safely across a busy car park. Toddlers, being small, could be easily missed in the rear view mirror of a car pulling out of a space.
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The cause of accidents isn’t just down to the driver. Pedestrians these days don’t seem to care where they walk and will walk across the back of a reversing car. They seem to think that they have right of way and expect cars to give way to them. They will walk in front of a car in the middle of the driveways between the parking lots.
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