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11-06-2007, 15:00
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Re: Asian women and the English language.
I really don't think it matters if non-natives speak in their own language to each other. What is important is that they should be able to speak and understand enough English to be able to go shopping, go to hospital/doctor's surgery, go to a government department etc. It's basic common sense to realise that this is in their own interest as well as that of others. It's not easy to do at first, when you've grown up without learning English, but practise makes perfect.
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11-06-2007, 16:04
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Re: Asian women and the English language.
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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.
The are supposed to be British, it's the youngsters i'm talking about 'teenagers' who then laugh when they look in your direction, after some remark made by one of them appears to be funny to them. What I do is supprise them by making a remark back in their lingo, they don't like that.
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Ah so we're getting to the point now. It's rude teenagers you are actually objecting to. They come in the English speaking variety too but have the disadvantage that even if they speak some modern 'teentalk' us oldies can usually comprehend the gist of what they are saying. It doesn't stop them insulting people though if that's what they really want to do.
Insulting you in a language you can't understand seems to be somehow lacking in purpose to me.
There was a lad on the bus a couple of weeks ago who was very loud and irritating. It was just his volume which I found annoying but apparently he was also saying something to his mates about me obviously thinking he was impressing his mates and being clever. I just wish I'd realised who it was at the time as I would have asked him how his poorly knee was now after falling off his bike outside our house and sitting on our garden wall crying his eyes out.
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11-06-2007, 18:02
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Re: Asian women and the English language.
I think Ianto is doing well if he can understand the patois of any youngsters, regardless of their background.
Innit.
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11-06-2007, 20:12
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Re: Asian women and the English language.
He must be well cool.
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11-06-2007, 20:19
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Re: Asian women and the English language.
he will think so, but the kids will just think him 'sad'..........I know it's not right, but it is a generation thing......boundaries that us wrinklies(and to kids that is anyone over 30) are not supposed or entitled to cross.
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11-06-2007, 20:40
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Re: Asian women and the English language.
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Originally Posted by Ianto.W.
What I do is supprise them by making a remark back in their lingo, they don't like that.
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It is the only way to deal with them learn a bit of the lingo and give it back to them they hate it, good on you ianto.
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11-06-2007, 21:00
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Re: Asian women and the English language.
actually ianto i had a similar experience to you the other day some asian chavs were trying to take the miky out of me saying(in pakistani) hello how are you today in mocking tones. normally i would just ignore them but due to the hot temperatures i told them to get lost. this inspiired more mocking tones. i was a bit ****ed off as i dont expect asian youngsters to behave so rudely to ladies. anyway a few days later one of the lads saw me and came to apologise . it was really sweet as it reminded me that there were some manners lurking in those younguns somewhere
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11-06-2007, 21:11
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Re: Asian women and the English language.
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It is the only way to deal with them learn a bit of the lingo and give it back to them they hate it
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Didn't know you could speak Urdu, Bagpuss.
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11-06-2007, 21:18
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Re: Asian women and the English language.
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Didn't know you could speak Urdu, Bagpuss.
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It has its uses now and again.
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11-06-2007, 22:52
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Re: Asian women and the English language.
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It has its uses now and again.
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It's nice to see a young chap who has embraced multiculturism.
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12-06-2007, 20:46
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Re: Asian women and the English language.
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Originally Posted by garinda
It's nice to see a young chap who has embraced multiculturism.
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You know me, always at the forefront when it comes to racial harmony.
Cheers it's quite a while since I was called a young chap that I'm now blushing.
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13-06-2007, 13:19
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Re: Asian women and the English language.
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Originally Posted by garinda
I think Ianto is doing well if he can understand the patois of any youngsters, regardless of their background.
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You know me Gary I'll mix with anyone if they meet me half way, and yes I have a smattering of the Asian language (various patois), It was taught me by asian men and lads that I have employed over the years, I have some good friends here and abroad of many different races. I did not just single Asians out in my experience the Poles and the Italians are just as bad. .
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