Ask a Tory - Page 3

panther · 21-04-2008, 12:27

Cyfr you'd make a good tory!!

..*coughs*

Boeing Guy · 21-04-2008, 12:41

Interesting point garinda, no I do not advocate acts of Treason, as I believe that trying to destroy the Houses of Parliment would be classed. I just thought that maybe a bit of light humour was needed.

So you are not a Conservative voter, so on the question of the Scotish rights and for that matter the Welsh get free prescriptions as well, they were introduced by Labour, so can I take it that you voted for them in the last General Election?

garinda · 21-04-2008, 12:47

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Interesting point garinda, no I do not advocate acts of Treason, as I believe that trying to destroy the Houses of Parliment would be classed. I just thought that maybe a bit of light humour was needed.

Sorry, didn't know you were a comedian.

I suppose it's the same sort of humour that other comedian Kenny Everett exhibited at the Tory conference in 1983, when he came on the stage and announced 'let's bomb Russia'.

Given the current situation regarding terrorism in the country, personally I don't find that sort of statement funny.

grannyclaret · 21-04-2008, 12:55

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

I've noticed a bunch of anti-conservative sentiment here that I feel is unfounded.

There's the whole issue of Thatcher. Sometimes it feels like the only reason people are not voting Conservative is because of what she did or how she went about it, 30 years ago. Can we please talk about present day issues, surely they are what count.

I've noticed some people who just dislike Tories, with no real explanation. Is this a Thatcher issue or are there more underlying reasons, such as disagreement with policy?

If you have issues with the Conservatives as they stand today, a party who has been forced to change after 11 years of Labour, then air them here, let me respond and tell you how I feel about it.

I'll answer questions as honestly as I can because I want people to discover what the modern Conservatives are actually about.

I am disilusened with the labour party as it is today,,but i would NEVER , NEVER ,NEVER vote Tory,,,,and yes you can blame that bitch Thatcher for that,,,she caused no end of misery to hard working northerners ,while the southern fatcats got fater and richer,,,,,Well in my humble oppinion it wont be long before she meets her maker ...God help her

garinda · 21-04-2008, 12:56

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

So you are not a Conservative voter

I take it you have been privy to my secret voting slips?

I'm a member of no party, and have only ever stated on this forum that I have voted for Labour, though I have voted for other parties too, so you don't know who I have, or haven't voted for in the past.

My questions regarding the anomalies brought about through devoltion don't hide the fact that they were introduced by the present government. My question was what would a Conservative government do to change them.

Even in this thread I've been critical of this government, if you'd care to read a little more carefully, rather than jumping to assumptions for which you have no proof whatsoever.

Boeing Guy · 21-04-2008, 13:00

Right okay very nice.
Gardina, I drive a Boeing Aircraft for a living, every day when I get on it, I check ALL compartments for Bombs, Terrorists etc, I am subject to more security searches than you are as a Passenger, I hold a Restricted Airside Pass and had to go through many security measures to get it. I will be one of the first people in the UK to get an ID card as Aircrew are going to be first.
The door to my flight deck is Armoured and Locked at all times from prior to push back until after engine stop. We do open it so we can pop to the loo and have food brought in, but only after viewing the CCTV.
If we have a Hijacker on board my instructions are to turn off the intercom from the cabin, turn off the cctv and land asap. Even if the hijacker threatens cabin crew or starts killing people, they are friends and I have to make the desision to let them be killed, because of the greater good, if that happens, I will have to live with the fact that I let people die.

A terrorist can plant a bomb on my aircraft and kill me, he can fire a rocket at me and kill me.
When my wife says goodbye to me she knows it really could be the last time she ever sees me.

SO I THINK I HAVE THE BLOODY RIGHT TO MAKE HUMOR OF THIS
SITUATION. WE CALL IT GALLOWS HUMOR.

So please do not have a go at me for trying to make light of a bad situation.

and you say I jump to assumptions

garinda · 21-04-2008, 13:03

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Right okay very nice.
Gardina, I drive a Boeing Aircraft for a living, every day when I get on it, I check ALL compartments for Bombs, Terrorists etc, I am subject to more security searches than you are as a Passenger, I hold a Restricted Airside Pass and had to go through many security measures to get it. I will be one of the first people in the UK to get an ID card as Aircrew are going to be first.
The door to my flight deck is Armoured and Locked at all times from prior to push back until after engine stop. We do open it so we can pop to the loo and have food brought in, but only after viewing the CCTV.
If we have a Hijacker on board my instructions are to turn off the intercom from the cabin, turn off the cctv and land asap. Even if the hijacker threatens cabin crew or starts killing people, they are friends and I have to make the desision to let them be killed, because of the greater good, if that happens, I will have to live with the fact that I let people die.

A terrorist can plant a bomb on my aircraft and kill me, he can fire a rocket at me and kill me.
When my wife says goodbye to me she knows it really could be the last time she ever sees me.

SO I THINK I HAVE THE BLOODY RIGHT TO MAKE HUMOR OF THIS
SITUATION. WE CALL IT GALLOWS HUMOR.

So please do not have a go at me for trying to make light of a bad situation.

Err...ok.

I take it not losing your temper, and not remaining calm under pressure, isn't a pre-requisite to becoming a pilot?

Boeing Guy · 21-04-2008, 13:05

I am calm, I will not discuss this further. I believe I made my point.
If you are trying to rattle me, it has not worked.
Your not a troll are you?

garinda · 21-04-2008, 13:05

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

I am calm, I will not dissus this further. I believe I made my point

Yes, badly.

slinky · 21-04-2008, 13:07

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Right okay very nice.
Gardina, I drive a Boeing Aircraft for a living, every day when I get on it, I check ALL compartments for Bombs, Terrorists etc, I am subject to more security searches than you are as a Passenger, I hold a Restricted Airside Pass and had to go through many security measures to get it. I will be one of the first people in the UK to get an ID card as Aircrew are going to be first.
The door to my flight deck is Armoured and Locked at all times from prior to push back until after engine stop. We do open it so we can pop to the loo and have food brought in, but only after viewing the CCTV.
If we have a Hijacker on board my instructions are to turn off the intercom from the cabin, turn off the cctv and land asap. Even if the hijacker threatens cabin crew or starts killing people, they are friends and I have to make the desision to let them be killed, because of the greater good, if that happens, I will have to live with the fact that I let people die.

A terrorist can plant a bomb on my aircraft and kill me, he can fire a rocket at me and kill me.
When my wife says goodbye to me she knows it really could be the last time she ever sees me.

SO I THINK I HAVE THE BLOODY RIGHT TO MAKE HUMOR OF THIS
SITUATION. WE CALL IT GALLOWS HUMOR.

So please do not have a go at me for trying to make light of a bad situation.

and you say I jump to assumptions

Oh ******, I shouldn't have read that - I fly next week

Boeing Guy · 21-04-2008, 13:10

Slinky you will be fine. I would not fly if I did not feel safe

lindsay ormerod · 21-04-2008, 18:18

Cyfr, you can tell me a bit my "local" candidate Clive Fisher, all I can glean is he defected from the Lib Dems after geting beaten into 3rd place in 2005 when he stood against Dorothy Westell and PB in Ossy. I don't recognise his face, the leaflet that arrived today doesn't tell me anything about him or even where he lives. I would be suprised if he knows where the Peel ward is. Any info?

garinda · 21-04-2008, 22:24

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

Cyfr, you can tell me a bit my "local" candidate Clive Fisher, all I can glean is he defected from the Lib Dems after geting beaten into 3rd place in 2005 when he stood against Dorothy Westell and PB in Ossy. I don't recognise his face, the leaflet that arrived today doesn't tell me anything about him or even where he lives. I would be suprised if he knows where the Peel ward is. Any info?

I detest politicians, of all parties, who jump ship in the hope of securing a seat.

Even worse is when they do it mid-term. I think it shouldn't be allowed, if they want to change parties there should be a by-election.

Hardly shows a man of principle or conviction.

garinda · 21-04-2008, 22:44

Blimey, it's a bit slower than when Gayle did her live question and answer session re: the Panopticon.

It must be because as a woman she is used to multi-tasking.

(...and of course her swift replies to questions had nothing to do with her being a former Labour candidate.)

Neil · 21-04-2008, 23:07

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Originally Posted by garinda

Blimey, it's a bit slower than when Gayle did her live question and answer session re: the Panopticon.

It must be because as a woman she is used to multi-tasking.

(...and of course her swift replies to questions had nothing to do with her being a former Labour candidate.)

I believe she did the Panopticon thing before being a candidate