Ask a Tory - Page 4

garinda · 21-04-2008, 23:32

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Originally Posted by Neil

I believe she did the Panopticon thing before being a candidate

I didn't say she did.

This lively political question and answer session is fast becoming as drawn out as a debate in the House of Lords.

I'd better find a cushion and make myself comfy.

andrewb · 22-04-2008, 02:16

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Originally Posted by garinda

Another question.
Considering so many areas of the country are affected by the blight of drugs, isn't David Cameron's repeated refusal to answer the question as to whether he has taken illegal drugs, either at school, university, or before becoming party leader, another indicator that he is just another politican who cannot answer a straightforward question, or is his refusal to answer truthfully for a totally differing reason?
I'm not asking you to answer for Cameron, but do you think he should answer what to all extent and purposes a fairly straightforward question?

Cameron will not be excused further drug ‘revelations’ - Times Online

Not at all. What he has done in the past (as we all suspect) has no relevance today. People don't plan to be leader of the opposition or prime minister, they don't avoid having a 'university life' to get into politics. These are real people. As I see it I don't think people care if he smoked cannabis at university. If people really think it matters, then I guess they won't vote for him.

andrewb · 22-04-2008, 02:18

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Originally Posted by garinda

Next question.

Would a Conservative government redress the anomalies where by, in a supposed United Kingdom, Scotland allows it's elderly people free residential care, without the need to sell their homes or use their savings, unlike in England, and gives Scottish students free university tuition fees, again unlike England. In Wales prescriptions are free, which is not the case in England.

We also have the case where Scottish M.P.s vote on legislation that only affects English and Welsh law. Would a Conservative government change this stupid situation brought about by partial devolution?

I can't speak for the party, I don't make policy. However Cameron has been saying he wants Scottish MP's to not have a vote on English policy. I think this is completely right. If we don't have a say in their matters, then why should they have a say in ours if it doesn't affect them.

andrewb · 22-04-2008, 02:20

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Originally Posted by panther

Cyfr you'd make a good tory!!

..*coughs*

Is there any substance in this or, perhaps even a question?

andrewb · 22-04-2008, 02:21

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

Cyfr, you can tell me a bit my "local" candidate Clive Fisher, all I can glean is he defected from the Lib Dems after geting beaten into 3rd place in 2005 when he stood against Dorothy Westell and PB in Ossy. I don't recognise his face, the leaflet that arrived today doesn't tell me anything about him or even where he lives. I would be suprised if he knows where the Peel ward is. Any info?

Is his phone number not on the leaflet you received?

andrewb · 22-04-2008, 02:23

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Originally Posted by garinda

Blimey, it's a bit slower than when Gayle did her live question and answer session re: the Panopticon.

It must be because as a woman she is used to multi-tasking.

(...and of course her swift replies to questions had nothing to do with her being a former Labour candidate.)

I had tons of essays in for yesterday. However never fear, I'll be able to respond much faster to your demand now garinda!

blazey · 22-04-2008, 05:33

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

See post #1. I'm not claiming to represent the whole party on every issue, it's about me as a Conservative letting people know how I think. It's already quite clear that I differ from the party on several aspects. I'm only writing about 'the party' in respect to what I feel about it. If they've made policy about something, that's when I'll respond with the party line including my own opinion if it differs. Any questions?

Thats a bit high and mighty to assume people want to ask you such important questions just because you have an opinion.

The only thing that I question about Conservative Policy is the Post Office issue, and I really don't want to have to bring it up again.

Can we see a return for fox hunting? That'd be nice

garinda · 22-04-2008, 07:50

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

I had tons of essays in for yesterday. However never fear, I'll be able to respond much faster to your demand now garinda!

Will let you off then.

Anyway, interesting thread...so far, so karma due.

Though I do disagree with your answer about Cameron, and the question if he's ever taken drugs in the past. Apparently there are plenty of people out there who could reveal the truth, so an honest answer would be much more refreshing than all this dodging of the issue.

garinda · 22-04-2008, 07:53

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Originally Posted by garinda

The question asked was
'Gay couples should have exactly the same rights as heterosexual couples',
which resulted in only 46% of the Conservative M.P.s polled agreeing, compared to 83% for Labour, and 92% for the Lib Dems.

Populus Limited > Poll Archive > Parliament Panel - 09.05.07-01.06.07

By the way, still waiting for a comment on this, now I've clarified the wording of the question asked.

andrewb · 22-04-2008, 09:39

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Originally Posted by garinda

Will let you off then.

Anyway, interesting thread...so far, so karma due.

Though I do disagree with your answer about Cameron, and the question if he's ever taken drugs in the past. Apparently there are plenty of people out there who could reveal the truth, so an honest answer would be much more refreshing than all this dodging of the issue.

I think the problem is that it sets a precedence that what happens in peoples private life 30 years previous, somehow has a real affect on their judgement. If it was last year, then people have a right to know, but I think people should have some degree of privacy to things they have done in the past without having to come out openly regretting or apologising to every mistake they might have made throughout their life.

andrewb · 22-04-2008, 09:47

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Originally Posted by garinda

By the way, still waiting for a comment on this, now I've clarified the wording of the question asked.

The question asked could easily be interpreted as gay marriage rather than civil partnerships because of the 'exactly'. I'm not trying to defend the split within the Conservatives over that question (although it was a very small sample), but I'd like to see it on the issue of civil partnerships and whether they agree.

I'd be surprised if the Conservatives disagree with civil partnerships, as Alan Duncan the Conservative shadow business secretary has become the first member of any cabinet or shadow cabinet to have a civil partnership. I have no doubt there will be some 'traditionalists' who disagree, but I don't think the split will be as divisive as the poll makes out.

garinda · 22-04-2008, 10:25

The wording of the question seems very straightforward to me.

There is no mention of either marriage or civil partnerships.

Just the statement 'gay couples should have the same rights as hetrosexual couples'.

Which resulted in only 46% of Conservative M.P.s agreeing with the idea.

Which leads me to assume that whatever liberal ideas the current leader may have, the rank and file old guard of the party are still the same old bigots.