Ban New Divers from road at night - Page 2

jaysay · 22-09-2010, 09:18

The thing is with the driving test, people don't learn to drive they learn how to pass a test, its only when they take to the road as a driver that they learn to drive

Margaret Pilkington · 22-09-2010, 10:37

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Yea there is Margaret, they usually drive round at breakneck speed, with car windows down and loud music blaring out

I should be make myself clearer......what I meant was, there is no legal requirement to denote a new driver......and while some new drivers may be like your portrayal, I am sure there are many more who embark on car journeys with trepidation....wondering if they will return all in one piece.

Gordon Booth · 22-09-2010, 17:21

Whatever rules you bring in, young people will always be sure 'It can't happen to me'. That's the joy of youth, the confidence. Driving a car fast at that age is a rite of passage, it certainly was for me. I was VERY lucky as I did some stupid things, but the roads were quieter then and even a 'fast' car wasn't fast compared to todays family cars. But then they weren't as safe either and that gives the young ones even more confidence-'Even if it happens I'll survive'. I knew I probably wouldn't but it didn't stop me!
Why can't we just accept that part of growing up, part of being alive, involves taking risks and train them as well as possible and then hope they have listened and are lucky? We can't wrap EVERYONE in cotton wool ALL of the time.
And why bring in ANOTHER set of laws it would be impossible to enforce? See Foxhunting. Spend the money on training them better and HOPE!

JCB · 23-09-2010, 19:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Yea there is Margaret, they usually drive round at breakneck speed, with car windows down and loud music blaring out

And they are rarely elderly , many of whom are afraid to be out at night .

Barrie Yates · 23-09-2010, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Whatever rules you bring in, young people will always be sure 'It can't happen to me'. That's the joy of youth, the confidence. Driving a car fast at that age is a rite of passage, it certainly was for me. I was VERY lucky as I did some stupid things, but the roads were quieter then and even a 'fast' car wasn't fast compared to todays family cars. But then they weren't as safe either and that gives the young ones even more confidence-'Even if it happens I'll survive'. I knew I probably wouldn't but it didn't stop me!
Why can't we just accept that part of growing up, part of being alive, involves taking risks and train them as well as possible and then hope they have listened and are lucky? We can't wrap EVERYONE in cotton wool ALL of the time.
And why bring in ANOTHER set of laws it would be impossible to enforce? See Foxhunting. Spend the money on training them better and HOPE!

Quite right Gordon. In my case it was motor bikes - 2 crashes, both at fairly high speed and walked away from both - but did I learn? no way, even more faith in my indestructability - that changed in the '60s

Studio25 · 23-09-2010, 21:44

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

...Why can't we just accept that part of growing up, part of being alive, involves taking risks and train them as well as possible and then hope they have listened and are lucky?

Because if they learn their lesson the hard way, it's unlikely that they will be the only one to suffer for their mistake.

Neil · 24-09-2010, 00:10

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I....and while some new drivers may be like your portrayal, I am sure there are many more who embark on car journeys with trepidation....wondering if they will return all in one piece.

Any one who feels like that should not be driving anyway in my opinion.

steeljack · 24-09-2010, 04:14

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Originally Posted by Neil

Any one who feels like that should not be driving anyway in my opinion.

spoken by someone who's driving habits are fueled/directed 30/40 yr old testerone levels , not to worry 10/15 years on when the hydraulics start to fail and PSA test results come in we will hear another story

Neil , face it , you're going to get old and become an old 'wrinkly" like the rest of us , probaly sooner than later

jaysay · 24-09-2010, 08:58

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Quite right Gordon. In my case it was motor bikes - 2 crashes, both at fairly high speed and walked away from both - but did I learn? no way, even more faith in my indestructability - that changed in the '60s

I ran my dads car in a ditch on Tottleworth moor (think that's what the call it) went down a dip in the road with full heads on and didn't dip them, the road turned and I didn't. Only had one minor accident since and that was in a class 3, pulled a shop hording down in a narrow street in Much Wenlock

jaysay · 24-09-2010, 09:01

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Originally Posted by steeljack

spoken by someone who's driving habits are fueled/directed 30/40 yr old testerone levels , not to worry 10/15 years on when the hydraulics start to fail and PSA test results come in we will hear another story

Neil , face it , you're going to get old and become an old 'wrinkly" like the rest of us , probaly sooner than later

No probably about it SJ