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12-05-2013, 17:09
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Bedroom tax - targeting the poorest.
According to channel 4 News, 53 year old Stephanie Bottrill committed suicide because she 'couldnt afford to live anymore. She faced having to find 20pounds a week to pay for the spare bedrooms left after her children moved out. Apparently, she had lived in the house for eighteen years whilst bringing up her children alone. My god, what has this country come to when the most vulnerable and least we'll off are targeted as fair game by the government. The lowest paid are treated as expendable garbage by the so called 'powers that be.
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12-05-2013, 17:12
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Re: Bedroom tax - targeting the poorest.
despite it been made perfectly clear as to why she killed herself stating very clearly that she blamed the bedroom tax and the government and a breakdown on what she was expected to live on having to pay an extra £80 per month of her rent and having no previous mental health issues and been described as her been totally normal before she was lumbered with bedroom tax.....
some people still actually think the government and bedroom tax wernt teh reason why she killed herself
maybe if government wants single people to only have 1 bedroom they should build some 1 bedroom propperties because as far as i am aware tha majority of houses in accrington have two bedrooms or more and i doubt there are enough 1 bedroom propperties to house all the single people
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12-05-2013, 17:13
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Re: Bedroom tax - targeting the poorest.
Always been the case, More so when this lot are in power.
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12-05-2013, 17:13
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12-05-2013, 17:22
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Re: Bedroom tax - targeting the poorest.
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if HBC were that against it they wouldnt impliment it ..
its easy to say your against it but to do something about it is another thing
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12-05-2013, 17:24
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Re: Bedroom tax - targeting the poorest.
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Always been the case, More so when this lot are in power.
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how true infact the last time they were in power people were killing themsleves rather than go to jail for not been able to afford polltax
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12-05-2013, 17:48
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12-05-2013, 17:52
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Re: Bedroom tax - targeting the poorest.
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some people still actually think the government and bedroom tax wernt teh reason why she killed herself
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An excerpt from the article I linked to in my last post.
In a letter to her son, the woman, Stephanie Bottrill, wrote: "Don't blame yourself for me ending my life, it's my life, the only people to blame are the government, no one else."
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12-05-2013, 18:01
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Re: Bedroom tax - targeting the poorest.
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how true infact the last time they were in power people were killing themsleves rather than go to jail for not been able to afford polltax
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Thing is accyman we are viewed as "Low Class Scum" by these high ranking Tory's, n the working class that vote fer em are to dense to see it. or some even think they are better n they are.
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12-05-2013, 18:06
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Re: Bedroom tax - targeting the poorest.
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Thing is accyman we are viewed as "Low Class Scum" by these high ranking Tory's, n the working class that vote fer em are to dense to see it. or some even think they are better n they are.
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what some folk need to think of is that they could walk into work tomorrow and be told they are been made redundant and think how would they cope with the tory attack on the poorer folk.They could find themselves suddenly been one of the scumbag benefit scroungers they were criticising the previous week
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12-05-2013, 18:09
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Re: Bedroom tax - targeting the poorest.
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what some folk need to think of is that they could walk into work tomorrow and be told they are been made redundant and think how would they cope with the tory attack on the poorer folk.They could find themselves suddenly been one of the scumbag benefit scroungers they were criticising the previous week
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And if that happens i will NOT laugh. Well only a little.
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12-05-2013, 18:20
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Re: Bedroom tax - targeting the poorest.
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Always been the case, More so when this lot are in power.
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"This lot" wouldn't be the arrogant, mean-spirited, heartless, over-privileged tory sonsabitches, would they? Maybe the Frogs had it right when they dealt with their aristocracy in the late 1700s. Pity the poor couldn't be persuaded to vote in larger numbers. Of course, it's hard to become politically motivated when you are worried about keeping a roof over your head and feeding your family.
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12-05-2013, 18:33
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Bedroom tax - targeting the poorest.
Maybe I should start a new thread on this topic, but what benefits would you cut?
In 2004 the benefits bill was just over £70 billion a year. In 2013 its £120 billion. So this bill has risen by more than 50% against a falling tax take.
By any measure the UK Govt is bankrupt with debts exceeding £1trillion.
We don't have 50% more vulnerable people, don't have 50% more disabled people, don't have 50% more sick people, don't have 50% more people in need (recession causes hardship, but not 50% more).
So how does the govt cover the extra £50 billion? And should we be spending 50% more than in 2004? We've hit the credit card limit as a country, so what do you propose to cut?
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12-05-2013, 18:36
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Re: Bedroom tax - targeting the poorest.
How about your throat?
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12-05-2013, 18:41
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Re: Bedroom tax - targeting the poorest.
I don't know-I am needing more detail to form a stance on this. I am sorry that someone lost her life .
However, nobody living by themselves requires a 3/4/5 bedroomed property. What would be ideal for her would be to be rehoused in a smaller property.
I blame the government for a lack of one bedroomed properties. (building more creating more cost, counteracting the saved!) And I blame them for how difficult it is to re house-to a certain extent.
I don't think bedroom tax is a bad idea generally though. The principle isn't. There should be more help for those who need to move in the aftermath of the change, sad cases like this is all you see in the media. Not the people who have now been able to move from cramped housing to a more suitable larger place once somebody who took up that space, has moved out.
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Last edited by Sunflower49; 12-05-2013 at 18:47.
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