Beggers

[ANNE]

When mick was away on Thursday a knock came at my door. on opening it an Asian woman pushing a pram with a baby in it, was muttering something about Muslims.
Thinking she had the wrong house I pointed to next door.
Next Minuit she's pushing a note in my hand. The note said " I am a Muslims and I have No money for food. Can you give me some. "
I was totally and utterly gob smacked.
Thought these people took care of their own.
Told her I have no money either.
The Cheek of it!

[Eric]

I wonder why panhandlers always hang out near the liquor store?

What would happen if the beggars were completely honest about what they wanted the money for: Like "Hey man I really need to get high, can you spare enough for a gram."?

I don't lack sympathy for the needy, but in my community they do not starve and there are homeless shelters ... many more in winter of course.

I find that using the baby to get sympathy and cash is more than a little too much.

[garinda]

You could have given her a pork scratching.

[SPUGGIE J]

That is weird and scary in a way. Never heard of it happening so there is a first time for everything like the one who was selleng the big issue on Broadway when I was down. So maybe they arnt as different or a part of a community as we think.

[mani]

*LOL*

firstly they're not muslims. they're romanians/bosnians. they have a gimmick and htey like to play on it. i was on wilmslow rd and some guy came to us holding that paper we jsut told him to go away. later he comes into the take away and orders a huge meal and then carries on beggin with the punters inside the shop

these ppl are nothing short of thieves so u gotta beware of them

my old mum being gullible thought fair enough i'll give one some old pair of sandals that were in the shop that had been in stock some time ago and didnt shift. next thing you know she told the other beggers workin the area and we had an invasion of them. i literally had to push them outta the door for them to leave. later we realised theyd stolen a few items but by then they were long gone.

what you should do is call the police as they're most likely illegal immigrants and even if they are asylum seekers they shudnt be begging.

i've had a few arrested in my time. i dont mind beggers but thieves i do.

i feel sorry for the kids too esp as they get dressed to look poor and i'm sure are really really cold just for the sake of them lookin "needy"

[mani]

just comin back to the muslim point

the reason anne gave lookin after hteir own - chances are they're a part of a bigger gang who know ppl will give money to weary lookin mothers etc adn if they come across a muslim household the chances increase of them getting a charitable donation if they say they're muslim.

not saying christians are stingy or owt but its one of the main things that muslims have to give a certain percentage of their earnings to charity hence...

thats why they claim to b muslim. these guys cant even recite the kalma/ the prayer which every muslim shud know let alone go around claiming to be one.

[panther]

the cheek of it!!!
better not come to my house , ill set me son on em , with pork scratchings

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by mani

just comin back to the muslim point

the reason anne gave lookin after hteir own - chances are they're a part of a bigger gang who know ppl will give money to weary lookin mothers etc adn if they come across a muslim household the chances increase of them getting a charitable donation if they say they're muslim.

not saying christians are stingy or owt but its one of the main things that muslims have to give a certain percentage of their earnings to charity hence...

thats why they claim to b muslim. these guys cant even recite the kalma/ the prayer which every muslim shud know let alone go around claiming to be one.

We should start doing on the spot exams to see if people qualify for money. "Recite X prayer within 5minutes"

[WillowTheWhisp]

I was thinking the same thing myself Cyfr.

[flashy]

i suppose its similar in a way to the people who put leaflets through your door about clothes recycling....these people DO NOT recycle the clothes, they take then to another country and sell them, this was on watchdog a few weeks ago, i was gobsmacked at the thought of them selling them on to make a profit (for themsleves NOT a charity), apparantly most of these people are asylum seekers and sometimes pinch certain charities bags to make it look like they are part of the charity itself (great ormond street etc...)


so beware of these people who will think nothing of conning us into 'recycling' our unwanted clothes

[WillowTheWhisp]

The ones which are a genuine charity should have a contact number on and details of the charity, registered number and all that sort of thing.

[flashy]

thats where they know what they are doing willow, they do put contact details on them AND so called registered charity numbers............right say if i where to distribute leaflets and just put random numbers on the bottom of it, and call myself a registered charity,and put my phone number on them, how many people WOULDNT bother checking it out? i know i certainly wouldnt...ive recieved loads of these leaflets since i watched watchdog, and they have there uses....they do end up doing something for the world.......COS THEY END UP IN MY RECYCLING BAG!!!

[Tealeaf]

Originally Posted by mani

*LOL*

firstly they're not muslims. they're romanians/bosnians. they have a gimmick and htey like to play on it. i was on wilmslow rd and some guy came to us holding that paper we jsut told him to go away. later he comes into the take away and orders a huge meal and then carries on beggin with the punters inside the shop

these ppl are nothing short of thieves so u gotta beware of them

"

Mani is quite right - these people are Romanian gypsies. There was a plague of 'em down here until about 5 years ago - they had come on the basis that they were asylum seekers and it took a few years to ship them back. However, since Romania's accession into the EU in January, they are once again plying their trade on the streets and underground . The babies the women have with them are usually drugged with nightnurse or something similar.

I thought it would have been a few more months before they reached Accy, but if they are there now, then beware. Other than the mother/baby begging scam, watch out for an invaision of their kids, especially in the pubs; a couple of 'em will go in and cause a bit of havoc while a few more or their adults will get to work on lifting handbags, mobiles, etc.

Funnily enough, its not just the Romanians we're seeing begging here now; the Poles have started it. I had one accost me on sunday and he turned up again last night although he shot off when I offered to throw him in the dock if I saw him asking for money again.

[WillowTheWhisp]

It's a bit grim if you're not safe from them in your own home.

[lancsdave]

They have been on the loose in Nelson recently;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...060545,00.html