Benefits for the poor are spent on drugs and gambling

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by Eric

One is never too old to waste one's time. The way I interpret what he wrote is that in any labour/management dispute, or in any discussion of why British industry is, more or less, no more, it is wrong to blame only one side for the dispute, or for the loss of viable industries which provide well-paid, secure employment for the working class. Bashing the unions often obscures the fact that management needs a good swift kick in the plums too. From one set of prejudices, one blames unions for their greed and intransigence; and from another set, one blames management for their greed and intransigence.

But this is only an interpretation. His argument is a tad cluttered, but hardly "twaddle", or "inconsequential rubbish."

Did you appreciate my translation, Eric?

I do actually translate English to English (can you believe that! )-usually what Europeans write though!!

Love your use of "plums" have noticed it before...

[Michael1954]

Originally Posted by susie123

Well the verb's a new one on me...

I see I shouldn't really criticise - made a total hash of the quote in that last post...

This definition of the word paragon is in the full Oxford English Dictionary, but it is archaic.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by Michael1954

This definition of the word paragon is in the full Oxford English Dictionary, but it is archaic.

Left the UK back in the 80's Michael -I'm an old-fashioned (perhaps not archaic!) girl...!

[Michael1954]

Just out of curiosity, which dictionary are you quoting from?

[Michael1954]

I could not find this definition in the Concise Oxford Dictionary or Collins, only in the OED.

[cmonstanley]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well if the Tories are out of their depth, Labour have drowned long ago, you just can't see can you, you plank, Labour have never in our history made a success of running this country, they've always made a pigs ear of it, if ever anybody was out of their depth it was the one eyed Jock and his little Darling the Burk and Hare of British politics. As for the Tories putting people on incapacity in the eighties incapacity claimants went from around 200,000 in 1997 to 550,000 in 2010, ever though of being a stand up comic C'mon, try the Edinburgh fringe

total costs rose from £600 million in 1979 to £3500 million in 1997 your figures dont add up http://sticerd.lse.ac.uk/dps/case/cp/CASEpaper26.pdf

[Margaret Pilkington]

Eric, it WAS twaddle until it was translated.
I once took time to read a long diatribe of his to find that even when translated it made no sense and he contradicted himself several.........I told myself that this was the first and last time I was going to waste my presious time on someone who can't be bothered to post something that is readable, with some sort of translation.
Mobertol is a good bit younger than me...she has time on her side....which I (maybe) don't. My Thanks to you Dianne for the clearing of the fog.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

total costs rose from £600 million in 1979 to £3500 million in 1997 your figures dont add up http://sticerd.lse.ac.uk/dps/case/cp/CASEpaper26.pdf

Pray tell what it was in 2010 please, just to balance the argument

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Eric, it WAS twaddle until it was translated.
I once took time to read a long diatribe of his to find that even when translated it made no sense and he contradicted himself several.........I told myself that this was the first and last time I was going to waste my presious time on someone who can't be bothered to post something that is readable, with some sort of translation.
Mobertol is a good bit younger than me...she has time on her side....which I (maybe) don't. My Thanks to you Dianne for the clearing of the fog.

Ya Margaret, but there is still very low cloud over Scotland

[Margaret Pilkington]

John....when did I inherit your keyboard?....just noticed a couple of glaring typos in there........must be because I am sat here in the gloom of this Sunday morning using 'Misers light'(daylight) instead of turning the bulbs on.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

John....when did I inherit your keyboard?....just noticed a couple of glaring typos in there........must be because I am sat here in the gloom of this Sunday morning using 'Misers light'(daylight) instead of turning the bulbs on.

Margaret I keep trying to explain there's absolutely nothing wrong with my keyboard, its the person pushing the keys that's the problem

[yerself]

[susie123]

Originally Posted by Michael1954

I could not find this definition in the Concise Oxford Dictionary or Collins, only in the OED.

paragon (`pær�g�n) n. 1. a model of excellence; pattern:a paragon of virtue.2. a size of printer's type, approximately equal to 20 point. vBulletin. (tr.)3. Archaic.a. to equal or surpass.b. to compare.c. to regard as a paragon.[C16: via French from Old Italian paragone comparison, from Medieval Greek parakonž whetstone, from Greek parakonan to sharpen against, from PARA-1 + akonan to sharpen, from akone whetstone]

The above is from the Collins dictionary and thesaurus which has been on my computer for yonks. It does give the verb, but lists it as archaic.

[MargaretR]

This thread is infested with dictionary quotes.
I suggest this

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

This thread is infested with dictionary quotes.
I suggest this

I blame C'Mon myself