BENEFITS hmmmm

[Less]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Of all the things this Government has done I think the 'bedroom tax' is the most unfair.

By all means if there is smaller, more suitable accommodation available charge the tax on people who refuse to move into it. Otherwise, it's not justifiable.

Indeed, I've mentioned this before, when I moved into this house which is two bedroomed, it was because the house I had been living in was bought by compulsory purchase and demolished, at the time which was before the dreaded tax I asked for a one bedroomed accommodation and was told they are reserved for the disabled take a two bedroomed with our help or else become homeless.
Then the tax came in and I was hit as if it was my fault there is extra air that they think I can't use.

[Gordon Booth]

You have extra air as well as a spare bedroom?
Now there's a thought- we could have a tax on that as well.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

You have extra air as well as a spare bedroom?
Now there's a thought- we could have a tax on that as well.

Well gosh, throughout history hasn't that already happened?
I was born into this world, I didn't choose which part I should be born into, but for all of us there is someone that says you must pay to inhabit your small space, even if you try to live independently.

[Accyexplorer]

Originally Posted by Less

Well gosh, throughout history hasn't that already happened?
I was born into this world, I didn't choose which part I should be born into, but for all of us there is someone that says you must pay to inhabit your small space, even if you try to live independently.

Can your extra room not be defined as a hobby room L?
What is the correct definition of a bedroom,a room with a bed in it?
What would happen if your landlord changed it on paper to a 1bedroom house with a hobby room,would you still be charged a 'bedroom' tax?

[Less]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

Can your extra room not be defined as a hobby room L?
What is the correct definition of a bedroom,a room with a bed in it?
What would happen if your landlord changed it on paper to a 1bedroom house with a hobby room,would you still be charged a 'bedroom' tax?

I stated facts you offer me stupid questions, people need solutions not theoretical fantasy.


P.S. my user name is Less, please use it.

[Accyexplorer]

Originally Posted by Less

I stated facts you offer me stupid questions, people need solutions not theoretical fantasy.


P.S. my user name is Less, please use it.

Your another victim of this policy Less.
Solutions"? There is only one solution and that's don't vote for that shower of BSers in Westminster.....




.....Sorry,I think I'll just ignore you in future

[Less]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

Your another victim of this policy Less.
Solutions"? There is only one solution and that's don't vote for that shower of BSers in Westminster.....




.....Sorry,I think I'll just ignore you in future

I know there are victim's fortunately I'm no longer one of them, I did something about it.


As for ignoring me, you promised to do that a couple of months ago, is this another false promise?

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by Less

I know there are victim's fortunately I'm no longer one of them, I did something about it.

That's excellent news, Less. Good on you!

[Accyexplorer]

"Malcolm Burge, 66, killed himself at Cheddar Gorge, Somerset, after being pursued for the sum by his local authority, an inquest into his death has heard."

Man killed himself after benefit changes left him owing £800, inquest told - Home News - UK - The Independent


Oh dear, yet another victim of governments vile policies.
That council (or local authority as it likes to call itself) has blood on its hands

[Less]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

That council (or local authority as it likes to call itself) has blood on its hands

Has it any-more blood on it's hands than you or I?

Please, explain, not the guilt of such establishments but your innocence from the crimes you consider are being committed.

[Accyexplorer]

Yes, I believe it's more blood on its hands than you or I,we don't send debt collection agencies to vulnerable folks homes or terrorise them with threatening letters etc.
My innocence comes from opting out (where possible) from the messed up,inefficient system.
Not voting and avoiding tax (in my younger days) alongside attending the odd protest are a couple of ways I've done this.
A government that haemorrhages vital money into wars and creates a system that leaves poor folk high and dry, with nothing and no place to turn is not one I want any part of (if I can help it).

I know,If I'm genuinely concerned about these attacks on the poor by the "1%", I need to look further into political activism etc but I'm getting on a bit and it doesn't usually change much.

[cashman]

See it just shows accyx, yeh can be sensible when yeh want.

[Studio25]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

Yes, I believe it's more blood on its hands than you or I,we don't send debt collection agencies to vulnerable folks homes or terrorise them with threatening letters etc.

So all I need to do to get out of my council tax debts is write to them saying I have mental issues and that if they chase the debt I may top myself?

Or if I don't write to them, and they have no idea of my mental state, they will get villified for not taking that into account if I do commit suicide?

Sounds to me like an organisation trying to treat everyone fairly and collect what is due does not have any way to come out of this with a course of action that pleases everyone.

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

My innocence comes from opting out (where possible) from the messed up,inefficient system.
Not voting and avoiding tax (in my younger days)...

You might think that abstinence from "the system" absolves you from any blame, but you share equal blame for the way things are with everyone else who lives in this democracy. That's how democracy works - if you care at all about the way the country is run, you vote. If you care enough about the way the country is run, you canvass, volunteer, put yourself forward for election etc. If you don't care, or think they are all as bad as each other, then you don't vote, but that reduces your eligibility to complain about the way things are being run. If you care enough to complain on a forum, you care enough to put X on a piece of paper.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I care....I also complain.
I have never failed to trundle along to the polling station, I cannot vote for a party that does not have some of my core values at the heart of their policies.
I have voted in the past for people who say one thing, but then do totally the opposite.
I do not slavishly follow the principles or dogma of just one party....I think about who I feel may best represent me.....this is a considered way of voting....And for a couple of times I have felt that none of the parties/representatives of the parties deserve my vote....I feel seriously disillusioned about how this country is being run.
Political parties do not listen to the electorate, they dismiss the concerns of those who put them in power....They treat us like we are brainless idiots.
I will continue to trundle along to the polling station, but I reserve the right to write on my ballot paper"none of the above'.
When politicians show that they are genuine, trustworthy, and have more than their own interests at the heart of what they do, then, and only then will I feel comfortable with placing my x in their box.
I am not expecting this phenomena to happen in my lifetime.

[Margaret Pilkington]

And..By the way...Democracy is a myth....like Santa, the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny
It is a concept dreamed up to keep us quiet. To let us believe that what we say will be listened to and acted on.....but never is.