Bill Roach latest 'star'to be arrested.

[Aussie Irene]

Originally Posted by Guinness

What makes you think that the jury were 'gullible'? Do you have pertinent information that could have been used in the trial?

Alternatively do you read the daily mail or have the English disease of building people up until they are successful then relishing their downfall?

The very fact that these incidents are alleged to have happened 30-40 years ago and that there is no actual evidence implies that the only thing that the jury can take into account is 'who do they reasonably believe'.

If I accuse you of raping me in 1974...how do you think that you could prove otherwise except by bringing in people who knew you at the time, that could testify in court that they did not believe you capable of such a despicable crime? If the jury found you not guilty, would you still claim that the jury was 'gullible'?

And please do not go down the road of 'why would the CPS bring it to court?'..because I could deluge you with miscarriages of justice and examples of cases that should never have been brought to court.

I have no idea how old you are, but in the 70's, us young blokes treated women appallingly, myself included, because that was the way it was, it was acceptable to society. Looking back at some of the things I did growing up as a typical 'jack the lad', I'm glad I'm not a famous household name, because I'm sure a few ladies would chance their anonymous arm for the chance of a 'few quid' because of a drunken grope and an immature accusation of frigidity when I didn't get my own childish way.

Weird thing is I was walking with a young girl a couple of months ago in Corporation Park in Blackburn, she told me that she was afraid to walk in this park alone in broad daylight...that would never have happened in the perverted 70's

But Guinness, you are a famous household name. Expect a knock on your door from the boys in blue.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Aussie Irene

But Guinness, you are a famous household name. Expect a knock on your door from the boys in blue.

What? for being thick, black & Irish! (Now if that doesn't get the PC-enraged-a-lot on-behalf-of-some-perceived-offence, up in arms I don't know what will! )

[Margaret Pilkington]

I (personally) wouldn't go through the ordeal of a court appearance (and the digging into my background that would go on to determine if I was of good character, reliable and honest) for all the money in the world.

If these women are telling the truth(which the jury doubted) then they have been forced to relive the traumatic expereinces that they have had burried in the back of their minds for four decades.

When bad experiences happen to you, a coping mechanism is to compartmentalise the incident - to lock it away and not visit it again. It is the way the mind deals with such things...so that the incident doesn't drive you mad.
The only people who know the truth are the perpetrators and the alleged victims.

If Bill Roache did do these things then his belief system is that he will pay for it in his next life...this is a bit late for the alleged victims.

I think that some men can sense who they can try it on with.....and maybe they do, and get away with it. Younger girls may not have the confidence to do something about it.

What is absolutely certain is that these trials do sexual abuse vistims no favours at all. They make the victims much less likely to report incidents because they know that unless there is some physical evidence, it is a case of one persons word against that of another.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

My advice to women is if you are in this situation, don't think twice, give the perp a swift kick in the gonads......it is better than having to go through all this, and then being branded as a liar.Just because these men have been cleared does not make them innocent, but that there hasn't been enough reliable evidence put forward by the CPS.

If only it was that easy.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Guinness

Weird thing is I was walking with a young girl a couple of months ago in Corporation Park in Blackburn, she told me that she was afraid to walk in this park alone in broad daylight...that would never have happened in the perverted 70's

Blackburn isn't a very nice place to be most of the time anymore

[Margaret Pilkington]

Neil, I know it isn't an easy thing to do...but in the situations that these women were in......an office, a studio, a dressing room - somewhwere that there is likely to be someone in the vicinty, it should be a safe technique....but up a back alley in the dark or in a lonely place this is not appropriate advce......unless you have other self defence skills, and are a good long distance runner.

Women need to be far more aware of the dangers they may subject themselves to. They should be able to see dangers of sexual predators, and protect themselves.

A knee to the gonads delivers such pain that it should give the victim a sporting chance of making an exit...and you know the old Confucuis saying? Girl with skirt up runs much faster than man with pants down

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Neil

Blackburn isn't a very nice place to be most of the time anymore

I second that Neil. I dislike the place intensely.