Bill Roach latest 'star'to be arrested. - Page 7

gpick24 · 03-05-2013, 13:02

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Originally Posted by accyman

in a court system where a victims evidence was thrown out because it was too convincing...

Please elaborate.

accyman · 03-05-2013, 13:05

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Originally Posted by gpick24

Please elaborate.

last year a femal victim who was mugged was told that her evidence was to condeming to the accused and her evidence was thrown out by teh judge

i will try to find it on google but im pretty sure others will remember it as it was a big topic on here

accyman · 03-05-2013, 13:08

here you go.Sorry its teh sun but it made all teh papers not just the sun

'Perfect witness' just too good | The Sun |News

Less · 03-05-2013, 13:29

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Originally Posted by gpick24

Common sense says not, an example I read while looking this up was, imagine abortion to become illegal, would everyone who has had an abortion or taken part be prosecuted. Most, if not all of us has done something in the past that is now illegal, travelling in a car without wearing seatbelt is a good example.

Depends on who's common sense, using an emotive subject such as abortion is extreme, even the unfortunate women that 'miscarry' will in technical terms have aborted!

Then again something as simple as a seat belt, is not a good example, like everything in life, these things happen.

Smoking illegally, wearing or not wearing a seat belt or even 'legally removing a child from your own body' cannot be used as examples compared to removing another persons childhood even IF they are willing partners, (I do have a proviso in this, if the child for example became pregnant by the actions of a child of the same age, should they both be condemned by society? God, back then in puberty just about everyone wanted to...).

kestrelx · 03-05-2013, 16:06

Odd

how not so long ago he was claiming that sex abuse victims were getting karma for past lives...now looks like he's getting a bit of the old karma for his sins.

Coronation Street Ken Barlow actor Bill Roache causes fury by claiming sex abuse victims are punished for sins in past lives - Mirror Online

The problem with this karma argument is - that millions of kids starve every year - now if that is karma?, then what life where they in before to get this karma - if the population was much less even a few 100 years ago. Basically there arn't enough life times to get all this so-called karma!

jaysay · 03-05-2013, 17:12

Its a good job we this ain't in the good old US of A all these cases would fall on the Statute of Limitations, only murder has no limit on when charges can be brought against an accused. Well that's my understand, although there could be other instances, which I'm unaware of

gpick24 · 03-05-2013, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Less

Depends on who's common sense, using an emotive subject such as abortion is extreme, even the unfortunate women that 'miscarry' will in technical terms have aborted!

Then again something as simple as a seat belt, is not a good example, like everything in life, these things happen.

Smoking illegally, wearing or not wearing a seat belt or even 'legally removing a child from your own body' cannot be used as examples compared to removing another persons childhood even IF they are willing partners, (I do have a proviso in this, if the child for example became pregnant by the actions of a child of the same age, should they both be condemned by society? God, back then in puberty just about everyone wanted to...).

You`re absolutely right Less, I need to word my posts more carefully on such a sensitive issue. I was of course referring to induced abortions. Not trying to start a debate on it either, just a point that if some people had there way it would be illegal.

gpick24 · 03-05-2013, 21:33

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Originally Posted by accyman

here you go.Sorry its teh sun but it made all teh papers not just the sun

'Perfect witness' just too good | The Sun |News

Sorry Accyman, only just got round to reading that story. Utterly disgusting.

accyman · 04-05-2013, 09:04

they way things are going prisons are going to have the best panto's ever this xmas

MargaretR · 04-05-2013, 16:41

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Originally Posted by cashman

Degree of decency my arse, Hes just after a lighter sentence.

I watched his denial a few months back.

I tend to agree - your are not alone in thinking that.
This blog adds detail to the 'rape' allegation.

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accyman · 05-05-2013, 11:14

I was shocked the other night when ITV broadcast the sex offenders register, then i realised it was just rolling the credits at the end of an episode of Coronation Street

MargaretR · 06-05-2013, 15:42

For those of you who believe that compensation culture contributes to these arrests, I would like you to watch this Australian news bulletin concerning Rolf Harris. The woman was a witness, not a victim, so has nothing to gain.

Rolf Harris 'witness' interviewed - Video - The West Australian - Yahoo!7 News

accyman · 06-05-2013, 16:37

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

For those of you who believe that compensation culture contributes to these arrests, I would like you to watch this Australian news bulletin concerning Rolf Harris. The woman was a witness, not a victim, so has nothing to gain.

Rolf Harris 'witness' interviewed - Video - The West Australian - Yahoo!7 News

slightly off topic but why did we need to send three police officers to australia to take a written statement surely she could have made a statement to australian police and had it signed and mailed to scotland yard or even a video statement emailed.Just seems a lot of money spent on taking a statement.

MargaretR · 06-05-2013, 16:53

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Originally Posted by accyman

slightly off topic but why did we need to send three police officers to australia to take a written statement surely she could have made a statement to australian police and had it signed and mailed to scotland yard or even a video statement emailed.Just seems a lot of money spent on taking a statement.

If that evidence needs presenting in court the testimony of the officers who interviewed may be required.

I would rather our bobbies got a free trip there, instead of Aussie bobbies getting a trip here.

accyman · 06-05-2013, 17:09

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

If that evidence needs presenting in court the testimony of the officers who interviewed may be required.

I would rather our bobbies got a free trip there, instead of Aussie bobbies getting a trip here.

in cases like this if found guilty and if the guilty can afford it they should foot the bill for expenses like this but then that opens up paying for your trial if found guilty for everyone.

or does that come under court costs ?