Bin Strike

[BERNADETTE]

Originally Posted by andrewb

It is a 'pay cut' because it is less than inflation. They are not getting any less money, they're being offered a 2.45% rise. Therefore to honour the 6% they want, more money would need to be found.

And our MP's are great at not expecting a pay rise? Just to keep up with the ever rising cost of living it doesn't seem an unreasonable request!!!

[cashman]

Originally Posted by andrewb

It is a 'pay cut' because it is less than inflation. They are not getting any less money, they're being offered a 2.45% rise. Therefore to honour the 6% they want, more money would need to be found.

that just proves to me you are even dafter than i thought, you have obviously never encountered negotiation in yer cocooned life, if a union body enters pay talks with a figure, that is ALWAYS the top dollar, as managements offer is the bottom dollar, the settlement is normally somewhere in between, which would i assume put unison in line or just slightly over inflation, i know how the deal works, having done it over 20 yrs, you will learn one day when you grow up.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by cashman

if a union body enters pay talks with a figure, that is ALWAYS the top dollar, as managements offer is the bottom dollar, the settlement is normally somewhere in between, which would i assume put unison in line or just slightly over inflation, i know how the deal works, having done it over 20 yrs, you will learn one day when you grow up.

But this is not the real world this is the public service workers. In the real world we have to earn a pay rise by becoming more efficient and more profitable. That way the company can afford to pay is employees more money. In which way will the public service workers do this? The only way they can get their above inflation rise is if we the tax payer have more money taken from us.

Do you want your Council tax to increase, I don't. Not unless I will be getting something extra in services.

I really don't see how the Government can give them above inflation rises after stating that rises should be kept low to help reduce inflation.

I think support would very quickly disappear for the striking workers if it become an ongoing thing. Who wants their bins to stand for weeks or what are we going to do with our children when the schools are shut?

[Loz]

Originally Posted by Neil

But this is not the real world this is the public service workers. In the real world we have to earn a pay rise by becoming more efficient and more profitable. That way the company can afford to pay is employees more money. In which way will the public service workers do this? The only way they can get their above inflation rise is if we the tax payer have more money taken from us.

Do you want your Council tax to increase, I don't. Not unless I will be getting something extra in services.

I really don't see how the Government can give them above inflation rises after stating that rises should be kept low to help reduce inflation.

I think support would very quickly disappear for the striking workers if it become an ongoing thing. Who wants their bins to stand for weeks or what are we going to do with our children when the schools are shut?

Exactly.
If this carries on for a while and rubbish is piled up in the streets and other services aren't provided people will soon get fed up and turn against them.
I for one don't want my council tax to increase to pay their wages when i don't feel we get value for money in the first place.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Loz

I for one don't want my council tax to increase to pay their wages when i don't feel we get value for money in the first place.

I think it is wrong of them to award pay increments to them all as if they all did the same job.

You say you dont want your Council tax to increase because you feel your local Council does not give you value for money.

That may be true but do you think teaching assistants do a good job in schools? Should they not be awarded they pay increments seperately relevant to how they perform. Also their pay does not come from the local Council so will not affect your Council Tax. Come to think of it I bet a lot of those on strike are not paid directly from our Council tax.

[accyman]

Originally Posted by Neil

But this is not the real world this is the public service workers. In the real world we have to earn a pay rise by becoming more efficient and more profitable.

anyone who works at a well known local company based in altham and huncoat will be able to tell you that each year the owner gathers everyone around and tells them of the millions of proffit he has made and how well everyone has worked...

then proceed to give the crappest pay rise possible if any at all

i assume plenty more companies do the same because they can and as plenty of companies have probably said to many a person " if your not happy with it then you know where the door is " and theres always a pole around the corner waiting to take your place at less the cost


good for you if the company you work for appreciates its employees but believe me they are far and few between and the majority of employers give as little as possible because no one can make them give you a pay rise no matter how hard you work

if companies paid emplyees correctly and appreciated employees then teh minimum wage woudl never have had to be brought in that actualy forces employers to at least pay a bare minimum to prevent exploitation

dont forget these people who strike dont get paid to sit at home they do actualy loose money ,it knocks me sick how everyone is saying oooh my council tax will go up or whos going to look after my baby while i go to work and making people look bad for wanting a decent days pay that will allow them to keep up with living expenses,if the govenment , council or whoever managed money better there wouldnt need to be increases in council tax

stop pointing fingers at each other and point them in the right direction which is the polotitians and councilors that waste the more than abundant amount of money that they get from us each week via tax , national insurance,council tax and vat

[AccyMad]

Originally Posted by pam1

Wednesday Will Be Done On Friday And Thursday Will Be Done On Monday.i Have Put A Thread On About The Bin Strike

So if they're collecting Wednesday's on Friday, what happens to the recycling that's usually collected on a Friday? Does anyone know if this strike is going to put all collections back a few days.