Blair, a must read, not

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

...and how much did the last government give to the British Legion?

You took the words right out of my mouth.......I was just going to ask that question.

We should get away from the ideas that governments have bottomless pockets full of money to give away......in any case the money that governments usually have access to is actually ours......the tax payer.
And Yes I am one of those.

[Ken Moss]

A very good point, Margaret.

It's just a pity that in this time of economic thriftiness the current government is cutting back on police officers and PCSOs whilst at the same time ringfencing the £8bn per year for foreign aid.

Look after your own first.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

Whatever anyone may think of Tony Blair or his book, he has given all the proceeds from the book sales to an Arm Forces Charity. Something in the region of £4million I believe.Just maybe he deserves just a little bit of credit for doing that.

A worthy cause.

However, all this was hastily arranged in mid August.

The same time the planned protests for his promotional tour were made public.

Still the King of Spin.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

A very good point, Margaret.

It's just a pity that in this time of economic thriftiness the current government is cutting back on police officers and PCSOs whilst at the same time ringfencing the £8bn per year for foreign aid.

Look after your own first.

And you honestly believe a Labour Government would have cut back on Foreign aid Ken

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

It's just a pity that in this time of economic thriftiness the current government is cutting back on police officers and PCSOs whilst at the same time ringfencing the £8bn per year for foreign aid.

Look after your own first.

Would largely agree with you, Ken. It's laughable that we're giving money to India - a country which has enough money to fund its own space programme, not to mention its nuclear arsenal.

However, I would like you to point me to ONE Labour party politician, either national or local, who is talking about cutting foreign aid. Not quite the done thing for good little Socialists to talk about things like that. Tell you what - tomorrow, ask Claytonender if she thinks we should cut foreign aid. She'll choke on her Fairtrade coffee!

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Would largely agree with you, Ken. It's laughable that we're giving money to India - a country which has enough money to fund its own space programme, not to mention its nuclear arsenal.

However, I would like you to point me to ONE Labour party politician, either national or local, who is talking about cutting foreign aid. Not quite the done thing for good little Socialists to talk about things like that. Tell you what - tomorrow, ask Claytonender if she thinks we should cut foreign aid. She'll choke on her Fairtrade coffee!

Ya Wyn this politics thing ain't quite as simplistic as Ken would make it out to be

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya Wyn this politics thing ain't quite as simplistic as Ken would make it out to be

No it isn't, Jay, but let's face it, Cameron and Osborne don't come out of this very well. Making a big song and dance about letting the public make suggestions on where the axe should fall...as long as it's not foreign aid.

[Bernard Dawson]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Would largely agree with you, Ken. It's laughable that we're giving money to India - a country which has enough money to fund its own space programme, not to mention its nuclear arsenal.

However, I would like you to point me to ONE Labour party politician, either national or local, who is talking about cutting foreign aid. Not quite the done thing for good little Socialists to talk about things like that. Tell you what - tomorrow, ask Claytonender if she thinks we should cut foreign aid. She'll choke on her Fairtrade coffee!

Never mind Foreign Aid. I wouldn't even spend money in Ossy.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

No it isn't, Jay, but let's face it, Cameron and Osborne don't come out of this very well. Making a big song and dance about letting the public make suggestions on where the axe should fall...as long as it's not foreign aid.

You know as well as I do Wyn foreign aid is a nono when it comes to cuts irrespective of the colour of the rosette

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

Never mind Foreign Aid. I wouldn't even spend money in Ossy.

nout new here then, ya never did when you were last in office

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

No credit whatsoever, it's a cheesy Google Page Ranking stunt. The man's the lowest of the low and fully deserves his present status as an international pariah.

"...and how much did the last government give to the British Legion?"

Totally agree with both your comments - must be some sort of a record

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

"...and how much did the last government give to the British Legion?"

Totally agree with both your comments - must be some sort of a record

That's because we're not talking football!

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by jaysay

And you honestly believe a Labour Government would have cut back on Foreign aid Ken

The problem is that you seem to take everything I say as being an attack on the Conservatives. What I actually have a go at more often than not is a lack of common sense.

My personal view is that, regardless of political persuasion, we should look after ourselves first. Not everyone within the Labour party will agree with me but I'm fortunate to be part of a group of people who are allowed different viewpoints without risk of a serious dressing down. It doesn't make any sense to keep handing out cash when the natives are being told to save it due to things being a bit tight at the moment, I don't care who is in government.

Governments evolve however, and what may be good practice today probably won't be in a few years time. What disappoints me is that we have a government which still hasn't realised yet that ringfencing overseas aid is not that important to the people who actually live here.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

The problem is that you seem to take everything I say as being an attack on the Conservatives. What I actually have a go at more often than not is a lack of common sense.

My personal view is that, regardless of political persuasion, we should look after ourselves first. Not everyone within the Labour party will agree with me but I'm fortunate to be part of a group of people who are allowed different viewpoints without risk of a serious dressing down. It doesn't make any sense to keep handing out cash when the natives are being told to save it due to things being a bit tight at the moment, I don't care who is in government.

Governments evolve however, and what may be good practice today probably won't be in a few years time. What disappoints me is that we have a government which still hasn't realised yet that ringfencing overseas aid is not that important to the people who actually live here.

common sense view is fine ken, but ya should never expect a tory to have one.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

common sense view is fine ken, but ya should never expect a tory to have one.

Common sense cashy, I've never met a socialist with sense, except thee