Blanket Smoking Ban - Page 10

cannuck · 02-04-2006, 04:13

Beware: In my town, Kingston, On. Canada, we've had the ban 2yrs. Bars closed, servers and bar staff laid off (many of them single minimum wage parents) the economy sagging, US tourism way down. Put more effort into education of youth. E

firefighter753 · 02-04-2006, 08:48

There are not so many pub regulars (I mean every night of the week) who don't smoke, alot of pubs rely on the midweek trade (darts and dominoes etc) to keep their heads above water, and the pub regulars supply this midweek trade. I think that once you can't go out and have a fag with your pint, smokers will drink at home. On top of the ridiculous price of beer I think this is the final nail in the licence trade coffin and more boarded up pubs. As if the pub trade isn't hard enough.

SPUGGIE J · 02-04-2006, 08:51

No wonder G is right about it being a cheek. Ban it everywhere else but not on their own patch. Talk about one rule for us one for them. Stinks of "do as I say not as I do."

SPUGGIE J · 02-04-2006, 09:40

To firefighters point about pubs loosing out I wonder if supermarket bosses are rubbing their hands together at the prospect of more booze sales and profit increase due to it. Darts dominoes and pool leagues are a great way to unwind and have some friendly compitition midweek and does bring in the pennies. Have we reached the stage were the trditional local could go under?

katex · 02-04-2006, 10:12

Heard short news item on the Friday after the smoking ban came in on the Monday ?? (not sure which day). Said had been a huge success, but not why .. maybe they just asked the people who were the non smokers in the pubs ? Think they should have waited until weekend before any assessment was done !!

Any obsevations from up there Spuggie ??

SPUGGIE J · 02-04-2006, 10:35

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Originally Posted by katex

Heard short news item on the Friday after the smoking ban came in on the Monday ?? (not sure which day). Said had been a huge success, but not why .. maybe they just asked the people who were the non smokers in the pubs ? Think they should have waited until weekend before any assessment was done !!

Any obsevations from up there Spuggie ??

There have been a few incedents of people sparking up but most just mill about outside very unhappy. Not because they have to smoke outside but because the law says you cant drink on the street so fag no booze booze no fag. There has been a drop in custom even at my local which because it has a beer garden they can drink and smoke there. Will take a month or two for any real effects to register but it aint looking good.

Its not just the pubs clubs cafes etc the bookies have the same problem. Here there is a marked drop as most people treated it like a cinima and stayed untill what they were watching had finished. This ment they might put on an extra bet or 2. Now they just pay and run.

katex · 02-04-2006, 10:58

I was thinking that too Spuggie about the booze and fags, now certain areas in Accy where you cannot take your drink outside .. would have to leave it to go and have a fag .. go back and hey, where my drink gone ??

SPUGGIE J · 02-04-2006, 12:00

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Originally Posted by katex

I was thinking that too Spuggie about the booze and fags, now certain areas in Accy where you cannot take your drink outside .. would have to leave it to go and have a fag .. go back and hey, where my drink gone ??

One way for the landlord to keep a steady level of booze sales.

Wonder if it crossed Staggers's mind?

Then again someone could get pie-eyed at no cost bringing a new meaning to a very cheap night out (beware of students).

If a smoker out for a drink DONT FORGET YOUR WALLIES IF YOU DONT WANT TO LOSE YOUR DRINK.

Madhatter · 02-04-2006, 12:26

Ah so why some lass leaves her drink on the bar, could be any bar, wnywhere, anytown, and goes outside for a fag, some guy slips date rape drugs in it.

jambutty · 02-04-2006, 14:14

This smoking ban is more about controlling the public’s activities than for health reasons. It also puts citizen against citizen and whilst we argue it out the government quietly gets about its business of doing what it wants and in general that is not what we want.

The next step a few years down the line will be the banning of private internal combustion vehicles for the masses on the grounds of passive breathing in of vehicle fumes and global warming.

We are galloping towards the Big Brother scenario or the way that the masses were depicted in Soylent Green and Blade Runner.

Less · 02-04-2006, 14:20

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Originally Posted by jambutty

This smoking ban is more about controlling the public’s activities than for health reasons. It also puts citizen against citizen and whilst we argue it out the government quietly gets about its business of doing what it wants and in general that is not what we want.

The next step a few years down the line will be the banning of private internal combustion vehicles for the masses on the grounds of passive breathing in of vehicle fumes and global warming.

We are galloping towards the Big Brother scenario or the way that the masses were depicted in Soylent Green and Blade Runner.

I agree with your first paragraph, but your second and third are the result of reading and watching too many sci-fi storys!
Next time you go to your Doctor ask for stronger tablets, (they work for me).

jambutty · 02-04-2006, 14:46

You may scoff and try to ridicule people Less but nonetheless the masses portrayed in those two films is where we are heading.

You may not agree with my view but I reserve the right to make it without some supercilious twit trying to put it down.

garinda · 02-04-2006, 16:29

I would love to go back to Glasgow, and pop in the rough old dives up Maryhill Road, to see who has dared tell the Weegie hardmen they can't have a Woodbine with their pint of heavy.

SPUGGIE J · 02-04-2006, 16:34

Agree with that G. There will be some daft sod that will try it. Those that do might meet Malky.

AccyRach · 04-04-2006, 09:55

I read on a website (thesite.org, I think) that the government had "not yet made a decision" about smoking in cars carrying passengers. If they decide that I can't have a fag in my own car because I'm giving someone a lift, sod the lift! How will this affect car pooling - another way they are trying to cut down on congestion and pollution?
And where on earth can you smoke in a hospital?!? Next time I go for a check-up at Queen's Park Hospital, I won't even be allowed to have one in their car park with my windows rolled up (giving me the maximum benefit from my very expensive fag!) I can see it now - all us smokers 'waiting' on double yellow lines at the entrance to the car park with our engines running so that we don't get a parking ticket. Two pollutants for the price of one

Someone beat me to the date rape drug in your unattended drink comment, but I will add that I see a few people leave their drinks with bouncers in pubs to go outside to make a phone call - what happens if all the smokers have to do that now? A bouncer babysitting 20 pints goes off to extracte a drunken troublemaker, and gets sued by the person who's drink gets spiked because he left in his care?
Insurance companies are going to make a mint too it seems.