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Old 28-02-2007, 17:17   #31
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lol she wont have a leg to stand on
That’s not funny. It’s simply pathetic!

I’m surprised that you find it funny grannyclaret.
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Old 28-02-2007, 17:40   #32
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These are the criteria for being awarded a Blue Badge.
http://www.kingston.gov.uk/browse/community_people_and_living/disability/mobility/bluebadge/blue_badge_rules.htm
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3 Criteria for obtaining a Blue Badge:
You can get a Blue Badge if:
You receive the higher rate of the mobility component of the Disability Living Allowance.
You receive a War Pensioners' Mobility Supplement.
You use a motor vehicle supplied for disabled people by a Government Health Department
You are registered blind.
You have a severe disability in both upper limbs, regularly drive a motor vehicle but cannot turn the steering wheel of a motor vehicle by hand even if that wheel is fitted with a turning knob.
You have a permanent and substantial disability which means you are unable to walk or have very considerable difficulty in walking. In this case, if you have difficulty in walking, you may be asked some questions to help your local authority decide if you are entitled to a badge
People with a psychological disorder will not normally qualify unless their impairment causes very considerable, and not intermittent, difficulty in walking.

(Note: Children under 2 years of age do not qualify for a badge because they would not normally be expected to be able to walk independently.)

(Organisations caring for disabled people meeting one or more of the above criteria may be able to get a badge, but this is entirely at the discretion of the local authority and the conditions for using such a badge must be strictly observed - see point 3 in section 9.)
I’m having a problem getting my head around the paragraph in red. Having a severe disability in both upper limbs doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t walk.

I have to agree with Cherokee that the under 2 years old rule should be flexible for cases such as were discussed on Watchdog.

Can I point out garinda that a Blue Badge is awarded to the disabled person and not the parents, spouse, carer etc. and can only be used by one of them IF the disabled person is in the vehicle with them. Some people are of the opinion that if they are on an errand (like doing some shopping for them or paying a bill or collecting a pension) for the badge holder they can use the badge. They can’t unless the badge holder is with them and it is the badge holder who gets out of the car to do the shopping. The Blue Badge is issued to a person not a vehicle.

A Blue Badge holders parking restrictions are exactly the same as those for any other driver, except that a badge holder can also park on single or double yellow lines but keeping in mind the other restrictions. A badge holder can park free in public car parks and pay and display on road parking. Naturally both elements of the badge have to be displayed so that they can be clearly seen and read by an official.

Disabled parking bays in car parks are usually much wider than normal bays WillowTheWhisp to allow for wheel chair access, although there are exceptions. They are as wide as Mother and Toddler bays. Of course it doesn’t help when some selfish twerp doesn’t park properly.

By definition if a person is in a wheel chair it means they cannot walk or cannot walk unaided very far so how can there be a distinction between them Neil?

The responsibility of who uses a Blue Badge rests with the bona fide holder. That is why the holder as well as the misuser can be fined up to £1,000 and the badge confiscated. There will be cases when the holder is almost bullied into letting someone else use it but that can be argued in court.

As for Heather Mills she should return the badge. As an amputee with a prosthetic limb she can walk and now it seems dance the tango. Other amputees with prosthetic limbs can’t get a Blue Badge.
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Old 28-02-2007, 17:48   #33
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well according to the programme at least leeway is being given to such children from i think they said sept so hopefully it will open a few doors for the ones that really need it..
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Old 28-02-2007, 19:00   #34
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I have read all the information thank you Jambutty, and know when, and how, it is to be used.

I've only ever used mine once, and that was to park at Blackburn Royal, and was much appreciated, because it was a very bad day for me.
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Old 28-02-2007, 19:12   #35
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I know the disabled parking bays in car parks are usually much wider than normal bays Jambutty, that was what I meant. The 'normal' ones are much narrower and it's difficult to get anything large out of a car in one of those, especially with the thick doors on cars these days.
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Old 28-02-2007, 19:42   #36
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If you have a blue badge garinda and you state that you do, then you should use it at every opportunity. It is rightfully yours to use.

I have no qualms about using mine even on my ‘good’ days, which are getting fewer and fewer.

I would add though that if I have the choice of parking in an on road pay and display area or on nearby yellow lines I choose the yellow lines so that some able bodied person can use the pay and display area.

There was something on the 5 o’clock Chris Evans show on Radio 2 yesterday about parking bays and the sizes thereof WillowTheWhisp. Fox the fox came back with definitive sizes with the previso that they varied slightly. I can’t remember what she said but I have found out at http://www.multi-storey-car-parks.com/car_parking_bays.htm A standard marked parking bay on a car park is about 3 metres wide by about 5.8 metres long, with disabled or mum and toddler bays an extra metre on each side.
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Old 28-02-2007, 23:05   #37
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Oh, dear. I found it funny has well. so your your not on your own Granny.
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Old 28-02-2007, 23:18   #38
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If you have a blue badge garinda and you state that you do, then you should use it at every opportunity. It is rightfully yours to use.
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I would if I drove anywhere exciting. I only drive to my Mum's and park in the drive, occasionally to Accy, which has free parking, and to the hospital, where I have used it, and will use it again next week.
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Old 28-02-2007, 23:22   #39
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Oh, dear. I found it funny has well. so your your not on your own Granny.
It is funny.

She'd probably find it funny.

If we can't laugh at ourselves the world's a sadder place than it used to be. Folk have always used humour to diffuse a difficult or awkward situation.

Don't worry Jambutty's probably just signed up to the Politically Correct Brigade. He'll be telling someone off next for calling me a fairy next.
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Old 28-02-2007, 23:48   #40
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I have read this thread with interest, as I have been refused attendance allowance three times never mind mobility allowance that the Blue Badge goes with, to get mobility you have to get it for three years to qualify for a car, the other allowance is called motability allowance that the badge goes with, this is first given for one year and has to be applied for again. Attendance allowance is for someone to see to your basic needs ie; cooking a meal etc. The only way a cancer patient can get any of these benefits is if your consultant says you have only six momths to live. So you lucky beggars that have got it any other way "good luck to you".

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Old 01-03-2007, 01:14   #41
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I would add though that if I have the choice of parking in an on road pay and display area or on nearby yellow lines I choose the yellow lines so that some able bodied person can use the pay and display area.
Then you are an idiot. Yellow lines are there for a reason, usually to stop parked cars causing an obstruction. Parking on them with a blue badge should be an exception for you not the norm.

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A standard marked parking bay on a car park is about 3 metres wide by about 5.8 metres long, with disabled or mum and toddler bays an extra metre on each side.
Not in the Arndale they are not, or Ossy Co-Op either. They are the same size as the normal bays at the side of them, that is why I said there should be a distinction for wheel chair users, so they can park in wider bays.

It annoys me when I see a blue badge holder park in the disabled spaces on the Arndale car park then walk round town shopping. Those bays should be wider for wheel chair users only. If you can walk round Accy shopping you can walk from a normal space to the lift, it is only 30 yards from most spaces on their to the lift. If you can't walk that far what's the point of parking on the Arndale car park in the first place?

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As for Heather Mills she should return the badge. As an amputee with a prosthetic limb she can walk and now it seems dance the tango. Other amputees with prosthetic limbs can’t get a Blue Badge.
Maybe she too has bad days when she can't wear it and needs to use a crutch.
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Old 01-03-2007, 13:42   #42
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“She’d probably find it funny”.
How do you know? You don’t! You are just making an assumption to try and excuse your crass comment.
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If we can't laugh at ourselves the world's a sadder place than it used to be. Folk have always used humour to diffuse a difficult or awkward situation.
There is nothing wrong about laughing at yourself garinda but you are not. You are taking the micky out of someone else’s disability.
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Old 01-03-2007, 13:56   #43
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That’s not funny. It’s simply pathetic!
I have to agree with jambutty, chav












........ your second one was much funnier!! .......
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Old 01-03-2007, 13:57   #44
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neil. Maybe she too has bad days when she can't wear it and needs to use a crutch.
Yes neil i'll bet there are days when Heathers stump or whrever it fits gets sore, she will probably need it more after dancing, I agree she should keep it, all I have to add to this subject is if anyone 'Right' get's a mobility allowance and blue badge they should give them an Oscar as well.
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Old 01-03-2007, 14:14   #45
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Siobhan at 22 months insists on walking all the way round town now. In fact last Sat was her first attempts at terrorising the pidgeons on Broadway!

Mimi used to insist on walking everywhere.

Emz on the other hand used to walk a bit and then plead "Sit down now."
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