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31-08-2007, 19:53
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Re: Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
I wish today's memorial service would draw a line under the Diana mystique but I doubt it will. I am tired of hearing and reading about her death, with all the attendant theories, and even more tired of the continuing outpourings about her.
When she died I found the public reaction nauseating and not a little unhealthy. The loud proclamations of grief from people who didn't know her, except as a media image, were disturbing to say the least. It was very like the hysteria whipped up when some film stars have died. It's a sad occasion when any person dies and it's natural to cry for the loss of a friend or loved one but to grieve over a woman known only by her public persona is just idol worship. The "was she murdered?" aspect is very like the "is Elvis really dead?" one and it's constantly fuelled by the media because it sells newspapers.
I don't like Camilla but I don't like the disfunctional family she has married into either. However, whether she had attended today's service or not was their business and no one else's.
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31-08-2007, 20:01
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Re: Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
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Originally Posted by West Ender
I wish today's memorial service would draw a line under the Diana mystique but I doubt it will. I am tired of hearing and reading about her death, with all the attendant theories, and even more tired of the continuing outpourings about her.
When she died I found the public reaction nauseating and not a little unhealthy. The loud proclamations of grief from people who didn't know her, except as a media image, were disturbing to say the least. It was very like the hysteria whipped up when some film stars have died. It's a sad occasion when any person dies and it's natural to cry for the loss of a friend or loved one but to grieve over a woman known only by her public persona is just idol worship. The "was she murdered?" aspect is very like the "is Elvis really dead?" one and it's constantly fuelled by the media because it sells newspapers.
I don't like Camilla but I don't like the disfunctional family she has married into either. However, whether she had attended today's service or not was their business and no one else's.
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I agree with every word you've said,Westender. I tried to give you karma for that but I have to spread it about.
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31-08-2007, 21:53
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Re: Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
Totally agree, especially the part about the public reaction. Karma sent.
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31-08-2007, 22:07
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Re: Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
I found the service to be touching and genuine. I felt for the lads and their father and wished that this blot on our National Landscape would also end in line with the wishes of the Princes’ and that they, their father and the Nation should move on remembering the good and sincere deeds of Diana and putting behind us the negatives of her short time on this plane. Let her rest now and move forward.
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31-08-2007, 22:08
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Re: Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
It is strange all this fuss about the tenth anniversary of her sad demise, and these two very public events to commemorate it.
It's never happened for any other public figure. Churchill, Queen Victoria, no one.
Harry's speech today was good. The only thing I'd have added was that today's memorial be the day all this eulogising ends, and that she's finally allowed to rest in peace. Not much chance of that though, I fear.
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31-08-2007, 22:11
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Re: Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
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It is strange all this fuss about the tenth anniversary of her sad demise, and these two very public events.
It's never happened for any other public figure. Churchill, Queen Victoria, no one.
Harry's speech today was good. The only thing I'd have added was that today's memorial be the day all this eulogising ends, and that she's finally allowed to rest in peace. Not much chance of that though, I fear.
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Al Fayed is going to make sure of that, it was said today that he has a big legal team lined up for the inquest!!
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31-08-2007, 22:29
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Re: Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
think its time to let it lie.
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31-08-2007, 22:43
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Re: Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
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Al Fayed is going to make sure of that, it was said today that he has a big legal team lined up for the inquest!!
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He's a sad little man.
Never mind all his conspiracy theories, if he had employed competent security and drivers, Diana would still be alive today.
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31-08-2007, 23:06
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Re: Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
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Sir,
Karma in the Post...........
and bloody well said.
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is it on a go slow?
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31-08-2007, 23:08
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Re: Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
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He's a sad little man.
Never mind all his conspiracy theories, if he had employed competent security and drivers, Diana would still be alive today.
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Speculative in the least, after the emotion of Young Harry this afternoon and the clerics request for closure on the matter, a former close protection officer was spouting the same dribble within an hour of the service ending. Diana Princess of Wales chose to accept security from Al Fayed rather than the nominal security offered by the state as the mother of the future King of England. It was her choice to be with Dodi and she accepted the risks and unfortunately and with regret and she paid the price. If Dodi loved Diana in the way he professed to do so, would he have allowed a driver twice over the limit to take her and himself on the roads of Paris, some of the worst in the world. Maybe it was just an accident; maybe some of the darker elements of the state played some part, which ever it was she chose to be where she was and paid with her life. Don’t blame Al fayed, Charles, god are anyone else. Let it rest.
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31-08-2007, 23:10
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Re: Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
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is it on a go slow?
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31-08-2007, 23:11
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Re: Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
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It was her choice to be with Dodi and she accepted the risks and unfortunately and with regret and she paid the price.
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It wasn't her choice to lose the title Her Royal Higness, and the offical police security that afforded her.
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31-08-2007, 23:16
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Re: Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
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It wasn't her choice to lose the title Her Royal Higness, and the offical police security that afforded her.
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No, she chose her course in life. don't blame others for that.
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31-08-2007, 23:21
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Re: Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
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Originally Posted by West Ender
I wish today's memorial service would draw a line under the Diana mystique but I doubt it will. I am tired of hearing and reading about her death, with all the attendant theories, and even more tired of the continuing outpourings about her.
When she died I found the public reaction nauseating and not a little unhealthy. The loud proclamations of grief from people who didn't know her, except as a media image, were disturbing to say the least. It was very like the hysteria whipped up when some film stars have died. It's a sad occasion when any person dies and it's natural to cry for the loss of a friend or loved one but to grieve over a woman known only by her public persona is just idol worship. The "was she murdered?" aspect is very like the "is Elvis really dead?" one and it's constantly fuelled by the media because it sells newspapers.
I don't like Camilla but I don't like the disfunctional family she has married into either. However, whether she had attended today's service or not was their business and no one else's.
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Ya' gotta' laugh haven't you ... this thread had almost discussed itself out and laid to rest, then along comes someone who bumps up the thread again by complaining about people still wanting to remember Diana. Who's keeping it going I wonder ?
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31-08-2007, 23:50
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Re: Bolts of lightning expected Friday?
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I don't like Camilla but I don't like the disfunctional family she has married into either. However, whether she had attended today's service or not was their business and no one else's.
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Totally agree with the last part of that. It was a private family service by the princes in remembrance of their mother. Who they invited or didn't invite was up to them not the general public.
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