Boston Bombing

[DtheP47]

Originally Posted by Eric

He may not make it into court. At least, not in the ususal way. It's worth noting that he has not been read his Miranda rights on the basis of what the US authorities call a "public safety exemption". This means that he does not have "the right to remain silent." Nor does he have the right to an attorney. Also, some Republicans are calling for him to be declared "an enemy combatant" ... this means ... well, you can figure it out.

A tiny corner of Cuba that is forever USA beckons young Tsarnaev I reckon Dr E with as much scopolamine as he can drink prior to bit of water-boarding ....

[Neil]

Originally Posted by cashman

Tinks was the Big Bad Wolf.

Even worse than being the Big Bad Wolf, she is an honorary dingle now

[DtheP47]

Originally Posted by Neil

Even worse than being the Big Bad Wolf, she is an honorary dingle now

Is that like an oxymoron Neil?

[Neil]

Originally Posted by DtheP47

Is that like an oxymoron Neil?

Of course she isn't, she is a nice girl

[Eric]

Originally Posted by DtheP47

A tiny corner of Cuba that is forever USA beckons young Tsarnaev I reckon Dr E with as much scopolamine as he can drink prior to bit of water-boarding ....

I think Gitmo is out of the question right now ... it's under the microscope, and the gun, big time. He probably won't get any farther than Langley. Also, seems like the "public safety exemption" is being seriously questioned. Obviously, the ACLU is not happy with it; and they are being joined by many in the US legal community. (Expect the ususal remarks from our fav tory parrot, with, of course, the obliga-tory comments about Blair's old lady ... Oh, and there will be some sort of conspiracy theory argument thrown up)

I do see problems with the messages sent out by the response of law enforcement ... and the whole media thing in general. If I were a terrorist ... I do have the beard, but, unfortunately, not the energy and the interest ... I would be more than happy to see how much can be accomplished by so little (I'm not in any way attempting to trivialize the deaths and the injuries ... just talking of "scale") Two men ... well, a man and a teen shut down an urban area of over one million souls. Not a bad return on their investment. I expect to see more of these attacks.

It's difficult to draw positives from this cowardly act without seeming compassionless; but it has to be done. Lessons have to be learned, action undertaken. We can draw comfort from the fact that such actions are becoming harder and harder to commit. Increasingly, for the perps, there is nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. Maybe we can look for more co-operation between the U.S. and Russia, which also has had a few problems with muslims in the Caucasus. Perhaps, most importantly, the West, in fact all civilized nations, will realize that there is a war going on, and that militant Islam has to be challenged wherever it appears. No more fear about being labelled a "rascist" or an "islamophobe" just because one denounces acts of terror, attacks on freedom of speech, the dehumanization of more than 50% of the world's population, the barbaric acts of a savage Sharia law ... well, you get the picture.

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by Eric

It's difficult to draw positives from this cowardly act without seeming compassionless; but it has to be done. Lessons have to be learned, action undertaken. We can draw comfort from the fact that such actions are becoming harder and harder to commit. Increasingly, for the perps, there is nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. Maybe we can look for more co-operation between the U.S. and Russia, which also has had a few problems with muslims in the Caucasus. Perhaps, most importantly, the West, in fact all civilized nations, will realize that there is a war going on, and that militant Islam has to be challenged wherever it appears. No more fear about being labelled a "rascist" or an "islamophobe" just because one denounces acts of terror, attacks on freedom of speech, the dehumanization of more than 50% of the world's population, the barbaric acts of a savage Sharia law ... well, you get the picture.

Yeah but we need to be very careful not to target the innocent with the guilty.

Lets look at the typical reaction of the average republican view that all things muslim are bad..

After Boston, we should put Muslims under surveillance, says Rep. King ? MSNBC

(apparently the republicans didn't learn anything from putting everyone with eyes that weren't horizontal in internment camps after pearl harbour)

Then look at the alternative view..

BBC News - Boston bombings: Muslim Americans await bomber's ID

Timothy McVey wasn't a muslim, neither was Anders Brevik, nor was the dipstick at Sandy Hook. The media goes to great lengths to dehumanise the muslims, its backed up by the vocal moronic minority who commit acts of terrorism or scream about jihad from the comfort of their council house in Peckham.

Not one single newspaper had 'christian goes mad at sandy hook' as a headline, yet 'muslims bomb Boston' seems perfectly acceptable..way I see it, headlines in both cases should read 'people killed by insane maniac/s'

As for 'sharia law'..well just look at some of the posts on this thread regarding what should happen to the perpetrators of this crime, and then argue that only muslims want savage retribution enshrined in their laws.

[cashman]

Depends on yer point of view Guinness, I don't regard n "Eye Fer n Eye" as savage retribution, If found guilty.

[Restless]

Originally Posted by Guinness

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As for 'sharia law'..well just look at some of the posts on this thread regarding what should happen to the perpetrators of this crime, and then argue that only muslims want savage retribution enshrined in their laws.

its like what I see on facebook- I always see pics that say "bring back hanging" etc and then same people share "white and proud say no to sharia law"... Some of these trashy people would probably like sharia law if it was a "white" law....

[egg&chips]

Originally Posted by Restless

its like what I see on facebook- I always see pics that say "bring back hanging" etc and then same people share "white and proud say no to sharia law"... Some of these trashy people would probably like sharia law if it was a "white" law....

True Restless, you would expect facebook to allow xenophobes around the world to unite.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

He may not make it into court. At least, not in the ususal way. It's worth noting that he has not been read his Miranda rights on the basis of what the US authorities call a "public safety exemption". This means that he does not have "the right to remain silent." Nor does he have the right to an attorney. Also, some Republicans are calling for him to be declared "an enemy combatant" ... this means ... well, you can figure it out.

Orange suit and of to Gidmo hay Eric

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

Depends on yer point of view Guinness, I don't regard n "Eye Fer n Eye" as savage retribution, If found guilty.

Me neither, it never happens over here but they seem to have the right idea over the pond. Why keep a murdering scumbag behind bars living the life of riley, screws call you Mr. no bills, all mod cons 3 square a day, all costing the tax payer millions of pounds.

[accyman]

Originally Posted by Guinness

As for 'sharia law'..well just look at some of the posts on this thread regarding what should happen to the perpetrators of this crime, and then argue that only muslims want savage retribution enshrined in their laws.

theres a big difference between dishing out a suitable punishment and sharia law

dragging this idiot to the scene of his work where he killed and seriously injured people thus saving an expensive trial isnt too bad an idea

sharia law dictates that if a woman is married and is raped by another man she gets stoned to death for been unfaithfull infact sharia law dosnt really work out too well for women in general they usually end up dead

[accyman]

mind you sharia law has the right idea for pedos .Saville wouldnt have lived as long as he did for sure

[MargaretR]

Patsies rarely live long.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Restless

its like what I see on facebook- I always see pics that say "bring back hanging" etc and then same people share "white and proud say no to sharia law"... Some of these trashy people would probably like sharia law if it was a "white" law....

Whole world of difference between sharia & capital punishment Rob. I really couldn't be bothered with digging out examples & comparisons, it's sufficient to say that they're there if you have a quick google.

Hanging in UK was for murder, the rest of the offences you were imprisoned, dependent on the crime that decided the duration of incarceration. Sharia not only has the death sentence (stoning, decapitation, hanging) which is applied for various "criminal acts", they also use mutilation, maiming & flogging as punishment.

There's a link added as a quick point of reference to various punishments & if you notice not all, but most of these are used by Countries with an Islamic grounding & Sharia law.

The 13 Most Brutal and Inhumane Judicial Punishments Still Used Today