Boston Bombing

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Okay Folks,
My original post on this was in answer to Marg R, she said we needed to be told the truth, her version Is different from what the mainstream media's etc.
I fell I should qualify my disagreement with her on this.

Whilst I have no desire to see Abuu Hamza etc in our country calling for mine or anyone's death with such slogans as, kill Infidel or even the mad baptists in America, they are entitled to their opinion. If we remove this right, then we are in danger of becoming just like they are and what they stand for.

So although I am not happy at people shouting ' kill the infidel' in my own country, the simple fact that they can say it here, with no fear of death/Jail/Severe Beatings etc just shows how wrong they are.
We are a better nation for allowing Free Speech, people have died in World Wars to defend that right. Lets not lose it.

There is a considerable difference between "free speech" and "incitement to murder" or any other major criminal offence.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Okay Folks,
My original post on this was in answer to Marg R, she said we needed to be told the truth, her version Is different from what the mainstream media's etc.
I fell I should qualify my disagreement with her on this.

Whilst I have no desire to see Abuu Hamza etc in our country calling for mine or anyone's death with such slogans as, kill Infidel or even the mad baptists in America, they are entitled to their opinion. If we remove this right, then we are in danger of becoming just like they are and what they stand for.

So although I am not happy at people shouting ' kill the infidel' in my own country, the simple fact that they can say it here, with no fear of death/Jail/Severe Beatings etc just shows how wrong they are.
We are a better nation for allowing Free Speech, people have died in World Wars to defend that right. Lets not lose it.

This is a tricky issue, and it has been causing some debate over here in the colonies. Canada, unlike our neighbour to the south, does put limits on free speech. The official position ... one that has been defined and upheld by the Supreme Court ... is that there are such things as hate crimes, that speech and other forms of expression can cross a boundary and become promotion of hate.

Supreme Court ruling upholds limits on free speech in case involving anti-gay proselytizer - The Globe and Mail

I tend to trust our Supreme Court. Unlike the U.S. body, Canadian Supreme Court Justices are not appointed because of their political views, but on the basis of merit.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

There is a considerable difference between "free speech" and "incitement to murder" or any other major criminal offence.

That's how we see things here in the colonies.

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

The media uses camera trickery.
I made a thread about it a while back.*
For this event we have 'disappearing blood'

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2970918888111

..and they have resurrected a 'dead' headmistress as a witness in Boston

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Why indulge yourself in shock and horror, which is exactly what they intend you to feel, when it may all be staged.


*ps - http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ies-48617.html

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I understand your anger.

If I believed it to be true, I would be sad too.

I just require you not to accept all you see as being true.

MargaretR, you either believe this rubbish you post, in which case you're sick.
Or you don't believe it, in which case you're a sick troll.
Either way, you're sick.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

There is a considerable difference between "free speech" and "incitement to murder" or any other major criminal offence.

I totally agree Barrie, the only thing is the police are frightened of arresting people who are using words as incitement, because the race card will be waved about by all those Human Rights Lawyers swilling around in the legal system

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Okay Folks,
My original post on this was in answer to Marg R, she said we needed to be told the truth, her version Is different from what the mainstream media's etc.
I fell I should qualify my disagreement with her on this.

Whilst I have no desire to see Abuu Hamza etc in our country calling for mine or anyone's death with such slogans as, kill Infidel or even the mad baptists in America, they are entitled to their opinion. If we remove this right, then we are in danger of becoming just like they are and what they stand for.

So although I am not happy at people shouting ' kill the infidel' in my own country, the simple fact that they can say it here, with no fear of death/Jail/Severe Beatings etc just shows how wrong they are.
We are a better nation for allowing Free Speech, people have died in World Wars to defend that right. Lets not lose it.

Just wondering, are people equally free to wander round shouting 'Kill the Muslims'?

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Just wondering, are people equally free to wander round shouting 'Kill the Muslims'?

By Allahs scraggly beard & curly toed slippers how dare you ! You stinking dog of an infidel, only the religion of peace can make such outbursts.

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

By Allahs scraggly beard & curly toed slippers how dare you ! You stinking dog of an infidel, only the religion of peace can make such outbursts.

I only asked!!

[Less]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Just wondering, are people equally free to wander round shouting 'Kill the Muslims'?

If they are and they do, I would find it just as reprehensible as I would if someone was going around shouting 'kill the infidel'.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

I only asked!!

Only asked ? Only asked ? Where do you think you are, going round & freely asking questions like that !

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Only asked ? Only asked ? Where do you think you are, going round & freely asking questions like that !

But they shout it in Syria, Pakistan, Iraq and then they go and do it.
Does that mean they have more freedom of speech than we have?
I'm only asking.

[Restless]

Originally Posted by Less

I would find it just as reprehensible

Totally agree

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

By Allahs scraggly beard & curly toed slippers how dare you ! You stinking dog of an infidel, only the religion of peace can make such outbursts.

Why is it that people insist God/Allah to have a beard.....

[Boeing Guy]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Just wondering, are people equally free to wander round shouting 'Kill the Muslims'?

They should be, shall i bring the placards

[Restless]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

cnn-caught-out-telling-porkies

I know all about CNN and their lies... Its mention here however I find on the disturbing... Especially with the loss of the Eight year old....

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

They should be, shall i bring the placards

No use hiding behind that wall, DinG will come and get you.