Brick, Red Brick Barn, Hapton

[taddy]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

No Taddy the Hilda you mention is not any relation of mine. My aunt was Hilda Gregory who lived in Enfield Road, next to bottom house. Speaking of coffins, when my G,Grandfather died he was too large for them to get him down the stairs of the cottage so they had to take the window out. My dad always said the cottage he lived in though was to the right of the pub in what is now the car park. I only have that to go off as he died in Jan 1935. Another story was that when he was dying he said if they let him go 'across' to the Bull he would cure himself. That sounds like he was where dad said and not a cottage attached to the pub.

I can remember Hilda Gregory but her husbands name escapes me, they were both active members of the local labour party as were my parents; their meetings were held in a wooden hut on what was known locally as "Woodcocks Pen" at the bottom of Fish Lane, now called Lynwood Road; Hilda and her husband were frequent visitors to ("Our"),my parents house whenever there was an election.I can remember Labour Party posters being put up in our front windows asking people to vote Labour.

Shame we no longer have the people of her calibre putting up for the Labour party nowaday's.

As for the cottage being on the right, if you stand with your back to the pub, then yes it would be on your right but then again if you stood looking at the pub from the road,where the car park is now, there used to be buildings known as the "corn exchange", maybe this also included a cottage or two?

You have got me intrigued, I will try to dig up a little more information

[taddy]

By the way, the story of having to take the window out is a tale/fable, whatever, that I have heard before; Many fables or whatever one likes to call them are based on fact.

[Rowlf]

Oh the story of the window being taken out is definitely true. Hilda's husband was called John. He had a stroke and had to have both his legs amputated. He used to like a drink in the Railway pub. You are right about Hilda's involvement with the Labour Party. My granny Smith was too. I remember going to the hut in Fish Lane when I stayed with her in the early 50s. They used to have whist drives there. I have a cutting from the Observer of my gran being presented with something for her loyal work with the party. Her husband my grandfather stood twice in Accrington in elections and I still have the election leaflets. The cottage must have been in the Corn Exchange then. What were your parents called then. I might recognise the names.

[Rowlf]

I loved listening to my dad and Hilda May Knowles(Nee Whittaker) who lived in Burnley Lane talking about the old Huncoat characters. I used to be in stitches. Folk like 'Owd Up a Tree' and ' Owd Oh Mi Eye'. I wish I had recorded them. I do have 2 cd of my dad which the Sound Archives in Clitheroe castle recorded of him talking about his childhood in the village. He talks of all the shops there were and even a bank.

[taddy]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

Oh the story of the window being taken out is definitely true. Hilda's husband was called John. He had a stroke and had to have both his legs amputated. He used to like a drink in the Railway pub. You are right about Hilda's involvement with the Labour Party. My granny Smith was too. I remember going to the hut in Fish Lane when I stayed with her in the early 50s. They used to have whist drives there. I have a cutting from the Observer of my gran being presented with something for her loyal work with the party. Her husband my grandfather stood twice in Accrington in elections and I still have the election leaflets. The cottage must have been in the Corn Exchange then. What were your parents called then. I might recognise the names.

William,(little Billy and May Hadfield, they were members of the very socialist, left wing, Independent Labour Party before joining the Labour Party.

[taddy]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

I loved listening to my dad and Hilda May Knowles(Nee Whittaker) who lived in Burnley Lane talking about the old Huncoat characters. I used to be in stitches. Folk like 'Owd Up a Tree' and ' Owd Oh Mi Eye'. I wish I had recorded them. I do have 2 cd of my dad which the Sound Archives in Clitheroe castle recorded of him talking about his childhood in the village. He talks of all the shops there were and even a bank.

Huncote Annie, De-a-fun, (Deaf UN), Tommy Tac, (Thomas Arthur Coulson), Weighty, were other names that I remember my father talking about.

I realise that I am asking a lot but would there be any chance of you doing me a copy of the 2 cd set that you mention, I will pay for any expences (within reason of course), I am a renowned (tight) old devil.

[taddy]

Almost forgot but the Corn Exchange could have been called "The Corn Market", not Exchange.

[Rowlf]

I will see if I can get copies of the cds for you Taddy. Weighty was the nickname of my G.Grandad who had the Black Bull !!!

[taddy]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

I will see if I can get copies of the cds for you Taddy. Weighty was the nickname of my G.Grandad who had the Black Bull !!!

Maybe Weighty was a common nickname, the Weighty that my father related to was the baths superintendent at Broadmeadows Colliery, (Huncoat Pit); in the 1960s/1970s.

Would Herbert Smith a training officer at Bank hall Pit in Burnley, who lived in a council house at the bottom of Enfield Road, (Oer lines), as we used to say be any relation of your's ? Again going back to the 50s/60s.

Many thanks for your kind offer.

[Rowlf]

The Herbert Smith you mention is no relation. Strangely my grandad did have a brother called Herbert though and he worked as a checkman at a pit but not sure which one but certainly not in the 50/60s.

[taddy]

Originally Posted by taddy

Almost forgot but the Corn Exchange could have been called "The Corn Market", not Exchange.

I have come across a photograph of the Corn exchange/Market, showing the original cottages with a young boy stood outside one of the said cottages; these dwellings were, (as you say Rolfe), on the opposite side of the now car park of the (used to be) Black Bull.

The photo was taken, (I think), in the early nineteen fifties

If the photo is of any significance to you, let me know and I will print you a copy and somehow get it to you. (I do not know how to send it online).

Regards, Taddy.

[Rowlf]

Thanks Taddy . I would love to have a copy of the cottages. If you can get a copy printed perhaps I could send you my address on a private message.

[taddy]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

Thanks Taddy . I would love to have a copy of the cottages. If you can get a copy printed perhaps I could send you my address on a private message.

I have already scanned and printed some copies. As you say above, let me have your address and I will drop them off.

Your's Taddy.