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28-12-2009, 11:18
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
How is it 'additional waste'?
A waste of money is a waste of money, full stop.
Yeah it's odd when people don't post under their own name, even though it's allowed, and most people chose to post under a nom-de-plume, or even weirder write in the third person, almost as if if someone else is posting for them, as happened with Peter Britcliffe/TheLeadersOfficeHBC.
Or when Jaysay used to have a different username, and used to write to the press about the 'vile and vicious attacks' against his little pal Peter on this forum. Good to see he's never resorted to attacking anyone he opposes on here.
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28-12-2009, 11:21
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by cashman
maybe so, but they seem to be still of same opinion,unlike you. and at least what ya highlighted was righted n they do post on here, unlike the spineless one.
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Luckily for the other councillors I don't vote based on whether they post on Accringtonweb. Mainly because I can contact my local councillors whenever I like.
I am still of the same opinion cashman. It's a total waste of money, as I said in the other thread. Just because I didn't spot Labours waste last year doesn't mean I have uturned.
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28-12-2009, 11:26
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by andrewb
Luckily for the other councillors I don't vote based on whether they post on Accringtonweb.
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It's a good job, as it would rather limit your options, seeing as there's only one Conservative councillor posting under their own name, and she's been quiet for quite some time...almost as if she's been gagged.
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28-12-2009, 11:27
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by garinda
How is it 'additional waste'?
A waste of money is a waste of money, full stop.
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Things have value.
If you print £500 worth of calendars with some councillors details on, and then you print £500 worth of calendars with all the councillors details on, then the second one is going to be more valuable to residents.
In either case it's the same monetary waste of £500, which should never have been wasted in the first place and well done to Labour for opposing said waste.
They knew however that a calendar was being produced. Of the two calendars mentioned earlier, they caused the first one to be produced by refusing to be included on them, which had less value to residents.
Spending £500 and producing something that is less valuable than it could be, means both parties are to blame here. The Tories for spending the money and Labour for making the calendar less valuable and useful to residents.
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28-12-2009, 11:31
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
It's a waste of tax payer's money, full stop.
Even more so when not everyone receives one.
This year is apparently the first time Gayle has received one.
Two close members of my family, also resident in Oswaldtwistle, have never receieved one, ever.
I guess I'm just unlucky to have had one every year, for the past three.
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28-12-2009, 11:33
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
'less valuable'
I thought that the consensus here was that it had no value whatsoever
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28-12-2009, 11:35
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by garinda
It's a waste of tax payer's money, full stop.
Even more so when not everyone receives one.
This year is apparently the first time Gayle has received one.
Two close members of my family, also resident in Oswaldtwistle, have never receieved one, ever.
I guess I'm just unlucky to have had one every year, for the past three.
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I agree it's a waste. I also can never recall receiving one. It's a shame you can't see the mistakes of both sides though rather than just the Tories.
Margaret, to some people these calendars will be useful. Although the cost is not worth paying, now that it has been paid it's important that the most residents make use of it as possible. Labour refusing to have details on has made them less useful to those residents.
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28-12-2009, 11:36
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by MargaretR
'less valuable'
I thought that the consensus here was that it had no value whatsoever
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Though someone did mention earlier they'd used one to line a kitty liter tray.
I think the photographs on the calendars would induce the most constipated of cats to go.
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28-12-2009, 11:38
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by andrewb
Things have value.
If you print £500 worth of calendars with some councillors details on, and then you print £500 worth of calendars with all the councillors details on, then the second one is going to be more valuable to residents.
In either case it's the same monetary waste of £500, which should never have been wasted in the first place and well done to Labour for opposing said waste.
They knew however that a calendar was being produced. Of the two calendars mentioned earlier, they caused the first one to be produced by refusing to be included on them, which had less value to residents.
Spending £500 and producing something that is less valuable than it could be, means both parties are to blame here. The Tories for spending the money and Labour for making the calendar less valuable and useful to residents.
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Ain't it marvelous that Rindi and friends drone on about a £500 calendar, yet are quite happy to stay silent about billions of pounds worth of debt this poxy government have saddled use with, I've notices not too man of the elected left and their sycophants have anything to say about this unmitigated disaster inflicted on this country, and yet the borrowing still goes on and on and on. Only this morning Its been reported that if Gordon hadn't sold our gold stocks off at rock bottom prices we would have been £10 million better of, mind you when you have a government borrowing around £20 billion every month, £10 billion is peanuts in the real scheme of things
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28-12-2009, 11:41
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by andrewb
I agree it's a waste. I also can never recall receiving one. It's a shame you can't see the mistakes of both sides though rather than just the Tories.
Margaret, to some people these calendars will be useful. Although the cost is not worth paying, now that it has been paid it's important that the most residents make use of it as possible. Labour refusing to have details on has made them less useful to those residents.
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Not being a member of any political party, or always voting for the same party, my stance is purely non-partisan.
I applaud those councillors who refused to take part, because they too think it's a stupid waste of tax payer's money, and I deride the other councillors, who yet again have decided to fritter away public funds on this extravagant folly.
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28-12-2009, 11:43
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by garinda
It's a waste of tax payer's money, full stop.
Even more so when not everyone receives one.
This year is apparently the first time Gayle has received one.
Two close members of my family, also resident in Oswaldtwistle, have never receieved one, ever.
I guess I'm just unlucky to have had one every year, for the past three.
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I've forwarded your address to the appropriate department, you won't get one next year, which will be a blessing, as I can't stand the earache
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28-12-2009, 11:45
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by garinda
Not being a member of any political party, or always voting for the same party, my stance is purely non-partisan.
I applaud those councillors who refused to take part, because they too think it's a stupid waste of tax payer's money, and I deride the other councillors, who yet again have decided to fritter away public funds on this extravagant folly.
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Funny how you don't criticise Labour locally. Even on this issue where you have chance to point out that the money, given that it's been spent, could have been spent better by including all councillors. Something Labour prevented from happening. Show some of the 'independence'
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28-12-2009, 11:47
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by jaysay
I've forwarded your address to the appropriate department, you won't get one next year, which will be a blessing, as I can't stand the earache
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There's a Department of Calenders? Let's hope their days are numbered!
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28-12-2009, 11:52
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by jaysay
Ain't it marvelous that Rindi and friends drone on about a £500 calendar, yet are quite happy to stay silent about billions of pounds worth of debt this poxy government have saddled use with, I've notices not too man of the elected left and their sycophants have anything to say about this unmitigated disaster inflicted on this country, and yet the borrowing still goes on and on and on. Only this morning Its been reported that if Gordon hadn't sold our gold stocks off at rock bottom prices we would have been £10 million better of, mind you when you have a government borrowing around £20 billion every month, £10 billion is peanuts in the real scheme of things
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I have jokingly asked for the blind Conservative party faithful to please take note, on the many, many occasions I have criticised the government on here.
Strange how I'm never accused of being anti-Labour when I've been scathing about Labour, yet am seen as anti-Tory as soon as it's your little pal Peter under attack.
Trust me, if he was doing a good job there'd be no criticism from me, and others. Like I said earlier, the Observer was full of letters from residents this time last year, complaing about their taxes being wasted on these unnecessary calendars, but yet again his utter arrogance means he chooses to ignore any criticism, and do exactly as he sees fit...waste our money, yet again.
P.S. This is a local forum, and therfore the best place to discuss local politics. Personally I tend to share my thoughts on national issues, primarily on national forums.
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28-12-2009, 11:56
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by andrewb
Funny how you don't criticise Labour locally. Even on this issue where you have chance to point out that the money, given that it's been spent, could have been spent better by including all councillors. Something Labour prevented from happening. Show some of the 'independence'
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As I said, I applaud any councillor who refused to be part of this wasteful calendar, irrespective of which party they're from.
I've no idea if the independents didn't want to waste money on it, if they refused to be part of it they also get applauded.
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