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30-12-2009, 19:57
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by andrewb
I can guarantee you that Jaysay isn't the Conservative candidate so you need not worry.
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No, but when such an ardent, and hard working member of a political party, states as fact the presumption someone won't be voting for them, it makes you wonder if they are indeed worth voting for, and if they truly want people's support.
I'd have thought every single vote that could be garnered, counted.
For those without political blinkers, they might remember when I lambasted a local candidate for not canvassing at homes displaying the Cross of St. George flag, even though there was an international football tournament on at the time.
That candidate wasn't a Conservative, and they subsequently lost.
Every vote does count, and it's only the arrogant that presume, and discount people's support, without a fight.
I'm more than happy to further discuss next year's General Election, but this really isn't the place.
This is a thread about some of our councillors wasting money on an unnecessary calendar...yet again.
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30-12-2009, 22:42
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
I was reading in the LT archives about Hugh McNeil back in 1995. Seems a long time ago.
Last edited by g jones; 30-12-2009 at 22:44.
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30-12-2009, 22:42
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by g jones
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Garinda found it on the previous page. Between you and him you could start a detective agency.
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30-12-2009, 22:57
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Originally Posted by andrewb
Garinda found it on the previous page. Between you and him you could start a detective agency.
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I posted off my mobile and it pasted Garinda's link and I had previously copied the correct one on Hugh McNeil LT 1995.
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30-12-2009, 23:13
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
I gave that one to my mate he will use it,or lose it
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31-12-2009, 00:14
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Between you and him you could start a detective agency.
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As long as there's scandal, sleeze, and actions verging on the criminal being carried out, it sounds like a jolly good idea.
Though this Miss Marlpe will continue to act independently, and not part of any duo.
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31-12-2009, 09:37
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
Then the question must be asked, why didn't someone notice and contact the BBC to get it corrected?
Also, the same excuse can't be used for the pitifully inept captions that are used on the Stanley video on PB's own site. I really, really hope you aren't going to tell me you wrote those, mate!
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Didn't even know he had a website Wyn
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31-12-2009, 09:41
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by g jones
I was reading in the LT archives about Hugh McNeil back in 1995. Seems a long time ago.
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Hugh Mcneil was that Neils long lost Scottish Cousin Graham
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31-12-2009, 09:43
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by garinda
No, but when such an ardent, and hard working member of a political party, states as fact the presumption someone won't be voting for them, it makes you wonder if they are indeed worth voting for, and if they truly want people's support.
I'd have thought every single vote that could be garnered, counted.
For those without political blinkers, they might remember when I lambasted a local candidate for not canvassing at homes displaying the Cross of St. George flag, even though there was an international football tournament on at the time.
That candidate wasn't a Conservative, and they subsequently lost.
Every vote does count, and it's only the arrogant that presume, and discount people's support, without a fight.
I'm more than happy to further discuss next year's General Election, but this really isn't the place.
This is a thread about some of our councillors wasting money on an unnecessary calendar...yet again.
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Well I've always been a firm believer that its pointless canvasing a house with a Labour poster in the window
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31-12-2009, 10:40
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by jaysay
Well I've always been a firm believer that its pointless canvasing a house with a Labour poster in the window
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I've never displayed any political party's poster in my window, just as I've never been a member of any party, nor have I always voted for the same party.
I've honestly no idea who I'll vote for at the next General Election.
It will be a decision arrived at by weighing up the pros and cons of each individual candidate, versus their party's manifestos.
As for not canvassing at houses displaying posters for your opposition, did it never occur to you that there might also be a hen-pecked, or brow beaten spouse, or even adult children, who may not agree with the bullying person who put the poster up?
I think it's exactly those homes I'd be canvassing, not the ones that were already assured votes.
That's the kind of arrogance, such as stating who I won't be voting for, that can mean an election is lost. The difference between winners and losers.
Every vote counts, and if parties really cared about people, they'd be trying to secure those individual votes, not write them off.
Anyway, back on thread.
What are the odds they'll do a calendar in 2011, even with the public outcry against them, here and in the local press?
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Last edited by garinda; 31-12-2009 at 10:42.
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31-12-2009, 13:58
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by garinda
I've never displayed any political party's poster in my window, just as I've never been a member of any party, nor have I always voted for the same party.
I've honestly no idea who I'll vote for at the next General Election.
It will be a decision arrived at by weighing up the pros and cons of each individual candidate, versus their party's manifestos.
As for not canvassing at houses displaying posters for your opposition, did it never occur to you that there might also be a hen-pecked, or brow beaten spouse, or even adult children, who may not agree with the bullying person who put the poster up?
I think it's exactly those homes I'd be canvassing, not the ones that were already assured votes.
That's the kind of arrogance, such as stating who I won't be voting for, that can mean an election is lost. The difference between winners and losers.
Every vote counts, and if parties really cared about people, they'd be trying to secure those individual votes, not write them off.
Anyway, back on thread.
What are the odds they'll do a calendar in 2011, even with the public outcry against them, here and in the local press?
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even money
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31-12-2009, 20:04
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
With a fair wind they may be defeated in Mays elections. Labours got a good slate of candidates in all seats.
Our ambitions won't be calendars, dressing up, £700k failed websites or expensive devolution revolutions which don't revolve at all!
Housing, crime, low council tax, devolved first class leisure facilities, civic pride returned with an end to fancy fireworks, cheap certificates and dodgy mayors, civilised constitution that puts residents first and throws off the council those that are cheating the system and behaving like 'clowns'.
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31-12-2009, 20:50
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
Regardless of how the result pans out there has to be change for the sake of the borough. We can argue till we run out of breath but the borough and its populace needs to come first and that makes the calendar argument websites and other well intended follies look microscopic. There will have to be co-operation and even compromise for the sake of all the people of the borough even if it goes against the grain of all sides.
The Borough of Hyndburn first that is all that is needed.
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31-12-2009, 20:56
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by g jones
With a fair wind they may be defeated in Mays elections. Labours got a good slate of candidates in all seats.
Our ambitions won't be calendars, dressing up, £700k failed websites or expensive devolution revolutions which don't revolve at all!
Housing, crime, low council tax, devolved first class leisure facilities, civic pride returned with an end to fancy fireworks, cheap certificates and dodgy mayors, civilised constitution that puts residents first and throws off the council those that are cheating the system and behaving like 'clowns'.
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So your objectives are to lower the council tax? By how much and will it be a significant amount, how do you aim to implement this.Could you please explain what is meant by cheap certificates/ dodgy mayors. Who is cheating the system and how.
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01-01-2010, 10:18
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Re: Britcliffe monthly.
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Originally Posted by turkishdelight
So your objectives are to lower the council tax? By how much and will it be a significant amount, how do you aim to implement this.
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He did not say lower but low. That could mean no increase.
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