Britcliffe Monthly

[accymel]

Erm typical councellor remark! Gayle isn't national issues effecting our local issues????

We are talking:-

local GP's
Local Dentists
Local Hospitals
Local NHS

What we are discussing is a local issue isn't it???

[wkd_one]

sory gayle its my fault the NHS got dragged into this because Mr Jones claimed that hyndburn and britain are a lot better of medicaly under labour and i begged to differ on that claim

so realy its was his fault coz he mentioned it first


now with the ease i passed on the blame for that maybe i should be a polotitian

[Neil]

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

I very nearly stood as a labour Councillor a few years ago and now I am glad I didn't......

Maybe you were thinking about standing for the wrong Party then Lindsay.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by wkd_one

sory gayle its my fault the NHS got dragged into this because Mr Jones claimed that hyndburn and britain are a lot better of medicaly under labour and i begged to differ on that claim

It was Greg Pope who annoyed me by reminding us that Labour have tripled the money spent on the NHS for a slight improvment in performance - he forgot to mention that Labour have all but wiped NHS dentistry off the face on the earth.

[accymel]

Originally Posted by Neil

It was Greg Pope who annoyed me by reminding us that Labour have tripled the money spent on the NHS for a slight improvment in performance - he forgot to mention that Labour have all but wiped NHS dentistry off the face on the earth.

I think the last time i had a dentist was when labour just got their second election term of office.........mmmmm then all of a sudden its all gone private

[Neil]

Quick somebody shoot me - I am turning into a political activist

[SPUGGIE J]

Is PB fighting the local NHS quango desk jockey's over this dentist mess or as he can afford private he aint bothered?

[Gayle]

Originally Posted by accymel

Erm typical councellor remark! Gayle isn't national issues effecting our local issues????

We are talking:-

local GP's
Local Dentists
Local Hospitals
Local NHS

What we are discussing is a local issue isn't it???

It's only local in the way that it's local to every person in the UK. Local council can not affect the policies on these issues as they are national ones.

[wkd_one]

Originally Posted by Neil

Quick somebody shoot me - I am turning into a political activist

ok...........................

[accymel]

Originally Posted by Gayle

It's only local in the way that it's local to every person in the UK. Local council can not affect the policies on these issues as they are national ones.

Local council have a lot of influence on these issues - surely or what are we voting for????

[Gayle]

I'm sorry but this is why there is endless confusion about the difference between local, county and national politics. Local councils do not decide the policy on the NHS or Dentistry within its area, or how the NHS is run within the area, these are national policy decisions.

In local elections you are voting for the person or party that you believe will do the most for your own small area.

[katex]

Originally Posted by Gayle

I'm sorry but this is why there is endless confusion about the difference between local, county and national politics. Local councils do not decide the policy on the NHS or Dentistry within its area, or how the NHS is run within the area, these are national policy decisions.

In local elections you are voting for the person or party that you believe will do the most for your own small area.

Well, hun, so glad this has been said at last. As per our recent discussion, when you and Chris were painted green (only physically, not mentally), Chris reminded me that you should always vote for the personality, not the politics. I have always followed this policy, and sometimes voted for the candidate who did not hold my national political persuation. Reading this thread I was beginning to wonder and maybe withhold my vote this year altogether.

I am back on track now and will vote for the person whom I think will try their best to give Clayton the best imput. Cheers. !

[katex]

Originally Posted by Gayle

I would still chair the meeting without the £170 - I don't think Councillors should claim all these expenses - it's part of the job. I think the basic compensation should be sufficient.

I don't think you should refuse expenses Gayle, its what gives the lesser earner the opportunity to stand for council, and not leave it to those who can afford it. Ok, probably some abuse with these monies, but overall would think an extreme minority. It is your right to accept expenses, so don't go setting any precedencies should you be elected.

[g jones]

Originally Posted by Neil

So you think that Labour are not doing a good job of running the country but yet you will still vote for them. Sounds like sheep syndrome to me - voting for them because everyone else is. You will vote Labour even though by your own statement they constantly lie to you. Your comment also suggests that you do not think Labour are doing a good job. I don't know what selection criteria you use when voting but I think you should take a step back and decide on a new method.

You also blame Labour for the current NHS problems and rise in petrol prices.

I think the best bit is that you think Tony Blair talks bull****

Your right Neil. We don't need hysterical politics. It just runs our country down.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by katex

I don't think you should refuse expenses Gayle, its what gives the lesser earner the opportunity to stand for council, and not leave it to those who can afford it....... It is your right to accept expenses, so don't go setting any precedencies should you be elected.

That is a very good point Kate.