British goods - Page 2

susie123 · 11-06-2012, 16:00

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Originally Posted by Claytoner40

I'm not doubting you earn your money honestly. If all public sector workers bought non British goods there would be no money to pay you. It's simple economics. You couldn't buy anything. I'm happy to pay NI and tax to fund the public sector. You should do your bit by buying British and helping us out in manufacturing. You have a choice to help us. We have to pay you

I think you are forgetting that Lettie and her fellow public sector workers also pay tax and NI just like you say you do. Therefore, they are also helping to fund the public sector just like other taxpayers and don't need people like you telling them how they should spend their money.

Claytoner40 · 11-06-2012, 16:06

But the money they are spending has come from manufacturing !!!!!!! They have to spend on British or they are putting nothing back. As I said previously if they only buy non British goods they will have nothing to spend. Don't take it personal. Think about it

Claytoner40 · 11-06-2012, 16:09

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Originally Posted by susie123

I think you are forgetting that Lettie and her fellow public sector workers also pay tax and NI just like you say you do.

Susie - not just say I do. I really do. Every month

Claytoner40 · 11-06-2012, 16:14

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Just wondering if you actually live in the real world

31000 posts tell me you live in front of a computer screen

jaysay · 11-06-2012, 18:02

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Originally Posted by Claytoner40

I'm not doubting you earn your money honestly. If all public sector workers bought non British goods there would be no money to pay you. It's simple economics. You couldn't buy anything. I'm happy to pay NI and tax to fund the public sector. You should do your bit by buying British and helping us out in manufacturing. You have a choice to help us. We have to pay you

You do talk a load of cobblers

jaysay · 11-06-2012, 18:03

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Originally Posted by Claytoner40

31000 posts tell me you live in front of a computer screen

Take a look at how long I've been a member and the reasons why I use Accy Web so much

annesingleton · 11-06-2012, 18:33

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Originally Posted by Claytoner40

31000 posts tell me you live in front of a computer screen

I think you are out to cause a stir and are an insensitive and not very nice person who could do to stop and think.
I am also a very hard working public sector worker and will spend my money as I choose thank you. You speak rubbish in my opinion.

Claytoner40 · 11-06-2012, 18:48

Thanks Anne. You have every right to spend as you want. Think about it though, if all you public sector workers never bought British goods how would you eventually get paid?

annesingleton · 11-06-2012, 18:55

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Originally Posted by Claytoner40

Thanks Anne. You have every right to spend as you want. Think about it though, if all you public sector workers never bought British goods how would you eventually get paid?

Well obviously by public spirited people like you, us public sector workers can't afford to buy British, what with not having had a pay rise for the last three years and not likely to have one for some years to come, and at the same time having our pensions slashed whilst paying more for them!

Claytoner40 · 11-06-2012, 19:02

Anne think about my argument. You should have bought British. There's not enough manufacturing left to pay for your pension. There's not enough to give you a pay rise. You cannot get blood out of a stone. If we don't manufacture and sell things there is no money for anyone. That's me and you. Don't feel hard done by we are in this together

lettie · 11-06-2012, 19:46

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Originally Posted by Claytoner40

Anne think about my argument. You should have bought British. There's not enough manufacturing left to pay for your pension. There's not enough to give you a pay rise. You cannot get blood out of a stone. If we don't manufacture and sell things there is no money for anyone. That's me and you. Don't feel hard done by we are in this together

Whatever you've been smoking.... stop it now!!!! It is seriously addling your brain. This country is not entirely dependent on British made goods... We make very few goods these days compared to 50 years ago. Manufacturing is all but dead here. If I choose to buy goods made by a Chinese disabled peasant child, paid 1p/hr then so be it. Whatever I earn, I will spend as I please.
The world is an economy now and as Economists continue to tell us, the recession is global. We are interdependent whether you like it or not. You have no credible argument, so forget it and move on....

Claytoner40 · 11-06-2012, 20:10

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Originally Posted by lettie

Whatever you've been smoking.... stop it now!!!! It is seriously addling your brain. This country is not entirely dependent on British made goods... We make very few goods these days compared to 50 years ago. Manufacturing is all but dead here. If I choose to buy goods made by a Chinese disabled peasant child, paid 1p/hr then so be it. Whatever I earn, I will spend as I please.
The world is an economy now and as Economists continue to tell us, the recession is global. We are interdependent whether you like it or not. You have no credible argument, so forget it and move on....

The world is lots of economies not just one. If everyone is going to buy just Chinese will China pay British nurses to nurse British patients? Ask the German what he thinks of bailing Greece out

I agree we do make fewer goods than we did 50 years ago that only goes to SUPPORT my argument. Civil servants got decent pensions and pay rises then because the manufacturing industry was strong enough to support it

Your argument is a typical I'm ok Jack argument - I will do as I want

My argument is credible you don't understand money in and money out principals. It's simple - you can't spend what you haven't got.

lettie · 11-06-2012, 20:19

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Originally Posted by Claytoner40

My argument is credible you don't understand money in and money out principals. It's simple - you can't spend what you haven't got.

Exactly!!!! We haven't got it.... I am currently sucking on a British made Chocolate Lime and wishing I'd bought the cheaper Indian one. As previously discussed, I am also a tax payer. Public sector have had no pay rises for years. We still have British mortgages, use British public transport to get to work or drive foreign cars and pay British parking fees. We go on foreign holidays from British airports and pay all the relevant taxes there.
I would like to know exactly what you manufacture Claytoner40, as I am sure it will be nowhere near as entertaining as the good old British Bulls**t you're currently spouting.

Of course, if you actually manufacture something useful and affordable, I may consider buying it

annesingleton · 11-06-2012, 20:39

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Originally Posted by Claytoner40

Thanks Anne. You have every right to spend as you want. Think about it though, if all you public sector workers never bought British goods how would you eventually get paid?

Perhaps you could tell me which British goods I could buy then, because I believe they are very few and far between, and even if you think you are buying British, the goods very often have components which are manufactured abroad.

Tex · 11-06-2012, 20:53

Why should we as taxpayers opt for only buying British goods if the same items can be bought cheaper elsewhere?
Does the government do this?-- No. Giving contracts to foreign companies when we have the ability to do the same and maybe a better job .