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Old 21-02-2010, 20:47   #16
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it is all a matter of how things are looked at.

Oh, I see. It's all a matter of how you look at things. So, when Tony Blair misled Parliament and Lied to the nation that wasn't bare faced dishonesty, it was him not wanting to discomfort us with unecessary detail. Well I feel so much better about that. And there was I suspecting that all those lives had been lost for no good reason. Really, how silly of me. Now that I have my New Labour glasses on I can see that we are all heading into a rosy future and this truly is the best of all possible worlds. Oh I am really looking forward to Our Dear Leader's Victory in the coming election and then we will all be able to put this unpleasantness behind us.

You may think that this is ridiculous. I do. Platitudes do not convince and are no substitute for honesty. And the certain path to the political wilderness lies in believing your own propoganda.
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Old 21-02-2010, 20:53   #17
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You need to be very careful what you write on here, A-B - because if you're not, you may get a 'big clunking fist' knocking on your front door. A few years ago - when Tony handed over to Gordon - relatively few people understood exactly what the former was referring to in respect to the beheaviour of the latter. Most simply interpreted it as a man not to be trifled with by the political opposition.

As of today, the public now know different about the Queen's First Minister; while some of his sycophants may well seek to deny the charges laid out in the press, it now appears that this evening an anti-bullying group has revealed that no less than three permanent Downing Street staff have sought counselling as a result of Brown's beheaviour towards them. This really is frightening stuff, because as well as having an idiot in charge of government for the last few years, we also have a psychopathic megalomaniac.
I believe he has to attend two or three industrial tribunals in connection with his staff.Just hope he doesn't give evidence in writing,We could be here for years
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Old 21-02-2010, 20:55   #18
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Perhaps I should have said it's how the picture is painted. Some shocking mistakes have been made in the past by politicians across all parties but it isn't quite as black and white as one party is good and the other is bad.

Ignore the media image of each party and look to your local candidates. Pick the best person for the job and vote for them, regardless of what colour flag they're waving.
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Old 21-02-2010, 21:11   #19
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Or an ex Vicar!!!


Its such a pity "Honest" Bob Maxwell aint still around to lead us to the promissed land!! Lol!

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Old 21-02-2010, 21:29   #20
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Perhaps I should have said it's how the picture is painted. Some shocking mistakes have been made in the past by politicians across all parties but it isn't quite as black and white as one party is good and the other is bad.

Ignore the media image of each party and look to your local candidates. Pick the best person for the job and vote for them, regardless of what colour flag they're waving.
In your case would it be a white one?
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Old 21-02-2010, 21:48   #21
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Ok, here is a very partial list of Labour achievements over the past thirteen years...

Ballot Boxes are interfered with
Voting registers go missing
The Police can kill innocent people and get away with it
The state can kill people and get away with it
You can be put in prison indefinitely on the word of a politician
The State can torture people
Your children are monitored at School by Political Officers
Their behaviour is logged on a State database for their entire lives
Your innocent fingerprints, iris scans and biometrics are held by the State
You do not have the right to remain silent
You are watched on 4 million CCTV cameras
You may not photograph the Police
You do not have the right to protest peacefully
Curfews exist for entire communities
Your travel movements are logged and monitored
Who you vote for is logged and monitored
Your shopping habits are studied and logged by the State
Your emails and telephone conversations are recorded by the State
Your passport can be withdrawn at the whim of the State
Government agencies can use lie detector tests on you.

- £22,500 of debt for every child born in Britain
- 111 tax rises from a government that promised no tax rises at all
- The longest national tax code in the world
- 100,000 million pounds drained from British pension funds
- Gun crime up 57%
- Violent crime up 70%
- The highest proportion of children living in workless households anywhere in Europe
- The number of pensioners living in poverty up by 100,000
- The lowest level of social mobility in the developed world
- The only G7 country with no growth this year
- One in six young people neither earning nor learning
- 5 million people on out-of-work benefits
- Missing the target of halving child poverty...
- Child poverty rising in each of the last three years instead
- Cancer survival rates among the worst in Europe
- Hospital-acquired infections killing nearly three times as many people as are killed on the roads
- Falling from 4th to 13th in the world competitiveness league
- Falling from 8th to 24th in the world education rankings in maths
- Falling from 7th to 17th in the rankings in literacy
- The police spending more time on paperwork than on the beat
- Fatal stabbings at an all-time high
- Prisoners released without serving their sentences
- Foreign prisoners released and never deported
- 7 million people without an NHS dentist
- Small business taxes going up
- Business taxes raised from among the lowest to among the highest in Europe
- Tax rises for working people set for after the election
- The 10p tax rate abolished
- The ludicrous promise to have ended boom and bust
- Our gold reserves sold for a quarter of their worth
- Our armed forces overstretched and under-supplied
- Profitable post offices closed against their will
- One of the highest rates of family breakdown in Europe
- The ‘Golden Rule’ on borrowing abandoned because it didn’t fit
- Police inspectors in 10 Downing Street
- Dossiers that were dodgy
- Mandelson resigning the first time
- Mandelson resigning the second time
- Mandelson coming back for a third time
- Bad news buried
- Personal details lost
- An election bottled
- A referendum denied.
wow what a list im sure cameron if he wins will set to work straight reversing things
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Old 21-02-2010, 21:53   #22
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Winning the next election will be a poison chalice for who-ever gets in.
It is going to be the devils own job to put right what successive governments have got wrong in the past........and I fear that it is going to be impossible to reverse some of the changes that have been made.
Personally, I am sick of the points scoring attitude of political parties....and also of the name calling.
I wish that who ever wins could just get down to the business of getting this country up on its feet again....but I am not holding my breath, I don't see anyone who is capable enough to do the job.
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Winning the next election will be a poison chalice for who-ever gets in.
It is going to be the devils own job to put right what successive governments have got wrong in the past........and I fear that it is going to be impossible to reverse some of the changes that have been made.
Personally, I am sick of the points scoring attitude of political parties....and also of the name calling.
I wish that who ever wins could just get down to the business of getting this country up on its feet again....but I am not holding my breath, I don't see anyone who is capable enough to do the job.
yeh got it in one margaret.
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Ignore the media image of each party and look to your local candidates. Pick the best person for the job and vote for them, regardless of what colour flag they're waving.
What a load of rubbish that idea is.
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Old 21-02-2010, 22:21   #25
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What a load of rubbish that idea is.
Picking the best person to do a job is a BAD idea? That's a truly amazing reply, I can only assume you're being sarcastic.

On that logic, people who view David Cameron as being the best man to dig Great Britain out of the mire should vote Labour and vice versa.

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Old 21-02-2010, 22:24   #26
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Personally, I am sick of the points scoring attitude of political parties....and also of the name calling.
Just about sums politics up for me. This thread is a prime example of it. Is it a Tory telling us what they are going to do.. No it's a Tory telling us how bad the others are. No wonder people in this country are sick to the back teeth of them all.
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Old 21-02-2010, 22:53   #27
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The next election will almost certainly be overseered by the media who, up to press (if you'll pardon the pun) have proved themselves to be as adept as politicians at stretching the truth. I align my opinion with programs like The X-Factor, Britains Got Talent and Strictly Come Dancing where those who received the most criticism from the judges received the higher viewers vote. Talk about the lunatics running the asylum!

There again, it would be difficult to imagine a worse scenario than what we have now!
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Old 22-02-2010, 00:00   #28
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As I have said before, look to the man rather than the badge.
The vast majority of people are sick and fed up of all the badges, full stop.

Be they red, blue, or orange.
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Picking the best person to do a job is a BAD idea? That's a truly amazing reply, I can only assume you're being sarcastic.

So you think Graham Jones is the best person to be our MP.
Would you still vote for him if he switched to the BNP?



So now tell me if it is the person, the party or both that are important?

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Old 22-02-2010, 09:58   #30
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All parties are as corrupt as each other only a fool would think otherwise. Revolution.
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