Budget 2009

[Boeing Guy]

I fell out with Gordon and Tony a long time ago, when Prudence Gordon decided to sell 60% of our gold reserves, 415 Tonnes. In doing so he ignored advice from economists and the governor of the Bank of England and sold the Gold when the market was at the bottom. Costing the country £2 billion pounds. (£2,000,000,000.00). Nice work

[Margaret Pilkington]

Yes Boeing guy that is the action to which I referred in my previous post........he didn't need to do that.........and most people with a modicum of sense will always have a bit of something for a rainy day.........he expected blue skies all the way........now its P'ing down and he's sold the umbrella. Good Man, what?????

[Taggy]

Originally Posted by Neil

Having all the Government living in one place would be a massive security risk

They are all together in the Houses of Parliament arnt they? And thats not been blown up yet! May be the Houses of Parliament itself could be extended to provide the accomodation needed, either way a second homes allowance is simply not defensible!!

Ive noticed Ryanair are proposing a "Fat tax" on overweight passengers maybe we should do the same with our MP's, its quite noticeable how many of them seem to "Balloon" in size after a few years in office, it doesn't seem that Gym Membership is an allowable expense though unlike a months supply of Sausage Rolls and booze!!

Best Regards - Taggy

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Taggy

They are all together in the Houses of Parliament are they? And that's not been blown up yet! May be the Houses of Parliament itself could be extended to provide the accomodation needed, either way a second homes allowance is simply not defensible!!

Ive noticed Ryanair are proposing a "Fat tax" on overweight passengers maybe we should do the same with our MP's, its quite noticeable how many of them seem to "Balloon" in size after a few years in office, it doesn't seem that Gym Membership is an allowable expense though unlike a months supply of Sausage Rolls and booze!!

Best Regards - Taggy

Well we may be in a recession, but not as you'd notice in the annals of power, it appears that minsters have upped their booze budget by more than have. For the 2009/10 the budget for ministers entertaining in the form of wine and champers has gone up from £525,568 last year to £800,000 this coming year, recession, what recession

[BERNADETTE]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well we may be in a recession, but not as you'd notice in the annals of power, it appears that minsters have upped their booze budget by more than have. For the 2009/10 the budget for ministers entertaining in the form of wine and champers has gone up from £525,568 last year to £800,000 this coming year, recession, what recession

It is obscene amounts of money like this that really get my goat. Why can't they pay for their own booze out of their wages plus their other allowances?

[Margaret Pilkington]

well, Bernie.....it is because they can.

I think that they should all try to survive for one month on a basic pension.......no allowances, no drink tab at the Houses of Westminster....just a basic pension.
It would give them a little idea of what is happening in the real world.......you know, that one where we live.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

It is obscene amounts of money like this that really get my goat. Why can't they pay for their own booze out of their wages plus their other allowances?

Bernie they can pay for mine too if they want, after all they keep bumping up the prices for us mere mortals

[derekgas]

The budget shows once again how clueless they are, live by the old rule, if ya aint got it, dont spend it! This false economy is why so many people are in debt, the jobs/training for under 25's has been tried before, it doesnt work! If they fast track people through weak training (into supposedly professional jobs) the training isnt sufficient, lack of skill means not good enough at the job, then they go self employed and cant manage, fasttrack training = fasttrack bankrupts, or inept public services.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by derekgas

The budget shows once again how clueless they are, live by the old rule, if ya aint got it, dont spend it! This false economy is why so many people are in debt,

thats it in a nutshell, n not just the government, the dimwit public as well! much is not worked for n earned, the clowns have to have it NOW , n get it on credit they cannot afford when times are tough, n guess who created that mentality?

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by cashman

thats it in a nutshell, n not just the government, the dimwit public as well! much is not worked for n earned, the clowns have to have it NOW , n get it on credit they cannot afford when times are tough, n guess who created that mentality?

not a guess cos it's a non brainer... the early 80's economy was total borrowing.. encouraged by the Government..but Thatcher and the brilliant minds of Howe,Lawson and Lamont turned borrowing into a craft..I remember Thatch saying you can't buy a house without borrowing .. which is logic for most people .. and then they sold off shares in essential public assets like electric/gas to "the public" who then expecting big returns... this "mob" may not have a clue.. but I know the alternative.. and it is dire!

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Mancie

not a guess cos it's a non brainer... the early 80's economy was total borrowing.. encouraged by the Government..but Thatcher and the brilliant minds of Howe,Lawson and Lamont turned borrowing into a craft..I remember Thatch saying you can't buy a house without borrowing .. which is logic for most people .. and then they sold off shares in essential public assets like electric/gas to "the public" who then expecting big returns... this "mob" may not have a clue.. but I know the alternative.. and it is dire!

You don't get much more dire than this set of clowns (sorry that being offencive to clowns, they make people laugh) The last Tory Government may have had their faults, but they left Blair and co with the best economic outlook that any incoming government has had in our history and when they are kicked out at the next election with have left the worst economic future this country has ever seen, any kid being born today will be 23 years old before this countries back to where we were 12 months ago, you don't get any more dire that that Mancie, wake up and smell the coffee

[g jones]

I am not a fan of Gordon Brown but surprise surprise, who starts this thread? And the notion that some are saintly (blue) and others disastrous (red). How simple politics is to you Andrew? Take a look back and mistakes have always been made. Chamberlain, Heath, Thatcher have all made bad decisions.

Thatcher sold off our one great national asset North Sea oil for a pittance, shut down mines and sold off banks and was the architect of Cameron's broken society which is costing the country £billions. Labour have now had to lock up a record 90,000 people and the prisons are full.

Chamberlain had no policies and a piece of paper (like David Cameron) and failed to deal with the major issues of the day.

Listening to you and your clapped out nonsense it's depressing. People like yourself Andrew hysterically peddled 'THE FACTS' that Northern Rock was a disaster, break the Government, was all wrong, and would take decades to pay off. Currently it's two thirds paid off IIRC one year on, and making a profit, and about to offer ordinary folk 90% mortgages AND has turned a small shareholding by Taxpayers in to a billion pound asset. Much of the borrowing now has gone into bank shares so what happens when Cameron comes in and is cash rich?

You need to stop ranting and raving and take an honest look at the bad AND THE GOOD.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by g jones

I am not a fan of Gordon Brown but surprise surprise, who starts this thread? And the notion that some are saintly (blue) and others disastrous (red). How simple politics is to you Andrew? Take a look back and mistakes have always been made. Chamberlain, Heath, Thatcher have all made bad decisions.

Thatcher sold off our one great national asset North Sea oil for a pittance, shut down mines and sold off banks and was the architect of Cameron's broken society which is costing the country £billions. Labour have now had to lock up a record 90,000 people and the prisons are full.

Chamberlain had no policies and a piece of paper (like David Cameron) and failed to deal with the major issues of the day.

Listening to you and your clapped out nonsense it's depressing. People like yourself Andrew hysterically peddled 'THE FACTS' that Northern Rock was a disaster, break the Government, was all wrong, and would take decades to pay off. Currently it's two thirds paid off IIRC one year on, and making a profit, and about to offer ordinary folk 90% mortgages AND has turned a small shareholding by Taxpayers in to a billion pound asset. Much of the borrowing now has gone into bank shares so what happens when Cameron comes in and is cash rich?

You need to stop ranting and raving and take an honest look at the bad AND THE GOOD.

Oh hello Moaning Myrtle's back from a refresher course in the chamber of secrets at Hogwarts

[shakermaker]

*avoiding yet more useless posts about the disastrous past of blue & red party politics*

Worked out that my mum & brother will see a substantial rise of a few hundred pounds in income over the next year. The Budget clearly works in the short term, which is extremely important and necessary. We can only wait to see what happens in the long term.