But there's nothing for us to do!

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Lampman

I don't think that Accrington will be affording the millions of pounds that Blackburn Youth Zone cost.The one on the garage site seems to be a church based group.I've seen the one in Ossie and it seems a well run place,though not perhaps what your local street cred kid will want!
As for Martin,Jaysay yes he was a hard working bloke who got things done, perhaps his transfer is a promotion?

I can assure you it isn't Lampman, Martin was told that there was no longer a job at Ossy and he even had to apply for the job in Rossendale. I know Martin very well, he's a friend of mine, in fact he popped round to see me last week, so I know all the ins and outs off this, what I can only describe as a fiasco.

[Margaret Pilkington]

it isn't cool to be part of the organisations that occupied us as youngsters...cub Scouts, guides, church youth groups....and those of us who didn't go to these organised activities had enough imagination to occupy ourselves very well.
I can't say I was ever bored....or couldn't find anything to occupy my time with....I had chores to do......and siblings to supervise....there was hardly time for much else.

[tommiasfc]

Everytime I hear of this subject the older generation always have the same reply 'we made our own fun' but nowadays its a different world there's alot of peer pressure for kids to grow up. So whereas you had people in high school who were old kids now those people of the same age are young adults.

I remember playing hopscotch in primary school but by the time you get to high school theres no way in todays schools you would play it. I think it would help if youth clubs didnt just stick to the building they're based in and get outside on a summers night with some footballs and go to a local playing field. Any straglers wondering the streets would be tempted to join in. Not every teenager wants to go to a youth club to wait half an hour for there go at pool.

[flashy]

You pratt!!!

I'm 36 would you class me as 'the older generation'? Me and my mates ued to make our own fun too, even as teenagers

[tommiasfc]

Originally Posted by flashy

You pratt!!!

I'm 36 would you class me as 'the older generation'? Me and my mates ued to make our own fun too, even as teenagers

A Pratt because i'm speaking from experience. Just because you're not quite in the older generation doesn't make me wrong. I'm sure there won't be any teenagers reading the original post calling people pratts because they don't hang out on the street not everyone is the same.

Grow up and post something constructive

[Eric]

Originally Posted by tommiasfc

Everytime I hear of this subject the older generation always have the same reply 'we made our own fun' but nowadays its a different world there's alot of peer pressure for kids to grow up. So whereas you had people in high school who were old kids now those people of the same age are young adults.

I remember playing hopscotch in primary school but by the time you get to high school theres no way in todays schools you would play it. I think it would help if youth clubs didnt just stick to the building they're based in and get outside on a summers night with some footballs and go to a local playing field. Any straglers wondering the streets would be tempted to join in. Not every teenager wants to go to a youth club to wait half an hour for there go at pool.

Oh, so human physiology and psychology have changed, and all of a sudden humans develop differently And peer pressure now flourishes in new and improved ways. If you are attempting to argue that there has been a major change in the nature of adolescence, you made a lousy attempt. And "straglers wondering"! No doubt twas brillig that night.

[Margaret Pilkington]

youth clubs, and church groups(scouts, cubs, guides etc) had a role to play in forming the bonds of community.....fostering a feeling of belonging.
They allowed young people to let off steam...to get rid of excess energy.
Table tennis was played, indoor football(five a side)...there were dances....all active healthy pursuits.
It wasn't always a case of making our own entertainment, but what we didn't do was sit around moaning saying 'I'm bored' - 'there's nothing to do'.
Those who want to find something with which to occupy their time, will do so...those who have no imagination and less motivation will not.

[tommiasfc]

Originally Posted by Eric

Oh, so human physiology and psychology have changed, and all of a sudden humans develop differently And peer pressure now flourishes in new and improved ways. If you are attempting to argue that there has been a major change in the nature of adolescence, you made a lousy attempt. And "straglers wondering"! No doubt twas brillig that night.

I'm not arguing anything im putting my point of view forward to the topic. The original post stated there might not be many teens read this forum and although i'm not one I bet I went through adulthood allot later than allot of people posting on hear so I thought a younger opinion maybe helpful.

[susie123]

Originally Posted by Eric

And "straglers wondering"! No doubt twas brillig that night.

... and they came galumphing back.

Brilliant, Eric - a gentle correction, with humour. Wish I had that knack - perhaps I need a go on your Yoda bong...

[heth]

Apparently the old Volvo Garage on Sydney st is being turned into another youth club.

I never knew but underneath the garage there is a large car park so it would have plenty of space.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I think this is going to be a youth club that is run by achurch/religious organisation........and these days youg people find this so un-cool....they would rather hang around getting up to who knows what, than participate in any activity organised by a church/religious group.
You can provide water for the horse....it may not drink it(my paraphrase of leading a horse to water).

[heth]

True Marg, very true.

I think they should make the school holidays shorter, it will solve the problems then!

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I think this is going to be a youth club that is run by achurch/religious organisation........and these days youg people find this so un-cool....they would rather hang around getting up to who knows what, than participate in any activity organised by a church/religious group.
You can provide water for the horse....it may not drink it(my paraphrase of leading a horse to water).

Are you really suggesting that we entrust our impressionable youth to god botherers? The Kevin Logans, catholic perverts and muslim martinets of our world??

Way I see it....the 50's had teddy boys, the 60's mods/rockers, the 70's skinheads, etc..etc..

This aint a new phenonmenon, you hit 14/15 and basically you are screwed until you are 17/18..there really is nothing that interests them, they are too old to do kids stuff and too young to do adult stuff.

What has changed is parenting, policing and awareness.

Nanny state says parents cannot chastise, police cannot administer slap round the earhole.

The information highway, social media and mobile phones with cameras means that unlike us oldies, who long ago used to get the proverbial kick up the backside for being caught scrumping/playing knick knack/writing I love sandra in felt tip on the phone box, todays youth can now have the backside kicker tried, sentenced and publicly humiliated courtesy of you tube.

[Margaret Pilkington]

No....I'm not suggesting anything.
Quite the opposite. I was saying that young folk today would not participate in such a club......because it is being run by a christian organisation....not cool in the eyes of their peers.
And just because there are some unsavoury characters in some religious groups doesn't mean they are all the same.
It doesn't matter what is provided for some youngsters....they will not participate, but prefer to hang around street corners.

[Guinness]

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

No....I'm not suggesting anything.
Quite the opposite. I was saying that young folk today would not participate in such a club......because it is being run by a christian organisation....not cool in the eyes of their peers.

I wouldn't have participated in such a club way back in the early 70's, because it was un-cool way back then. Nothing has changed in 40 years, it is not a new phenomenon.

And just because there are some unsavoury characters in some religious groups doesn't mean they are all the same.

There we'll have to disagree, in my opinion ALL religious groups are unsavoury and someone who blindly follows the dogma of the religion should be nowhere near impressionable kids.

It doesn't matter what is provided for some youngsters....they will not participate, but prefer to hang around street corners.

Agreed..that particular age group want nothing you or I can provide. A street corner to them is an accyweb to us dinosaurs