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19-05-2007, 17:34
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Re: Bye-bye Mr Blair
I was interviewing 16 year olds......and Ok part of their education would have been under tory lead government policies, I don't blame Blair for their lack of educational standards........all I am saying is that he didn't deliver on a lot of his promises....instead he relied on statistics and targets that were meaningless. This was done to bamboozle the electorate.
Maybe the low numbers going to uni in the sixties was because the uni's were far more selective about who they took. In those days if you had a degree you were somebody...mainly because a degree in those days, actually meant something. And today higher education is for those who are well to do, and can pay for tuition fees......well, unless of course you want to saddle yourself with a huge debt before you even start work. Is this not a second class education (of sorts)? I do not have any political affiliations, and I have to say that I am very suspicious of all the political spin......especially the latest debacle which protects MP's from having to divulge their expenses...... the Freedom of Information act is a case of 'do as I say...not as I do' and that cannot be good or healthy.
I know all about the 11 plus system too. I was one of the ones who failed my 11 plus. It has been proved since, that the 11 plus was flawed and was biased towards the children of professional people - though yes, a small number of gifted children from non-professional families did pass.
In my case it wasn't a catastrophe...in fact quite the reverse, it made me all the more determined to make something of my life.
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19-05-2007, 17:37
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Re: Bye-bye Mr Blair
Oh and Garinda, I wouldn't take anything you said as rude...not even if you called me an 'Old baggage'...I would take it as a term of endearment.
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19-05-2007, 18:18
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Re: Bye-bye Mr Blair
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Originally Posted by MargaretPilkington
and their handwriting and spelling was abysmal.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MargaretPilkington
part of their education would have been under tory lead government
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Oh dear Margaret !
led
past simple and past participle of lead
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19-05-2007, 18:44
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Re: Bye-bye Mr Blair
Sorry...it was a typo. But good on you for spotting it.
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19-05-2007, 18:45
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Re: Bye-bye Mr Blair
My brain sometimes goes faster than my fingers. And being human I do make mistakes.
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20-05-2007, 01:12
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Re: Bye-bye Mr Blair
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
My brain sometimes goes faster than my fingers. And being human I do make mistakes.
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I think there are only two of us on here margaret, your description of the Tories was spot on 'lead from the head down' and the neck up.
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20-05-2007, 11:50
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Re: Bye-bye Mr Blair
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Oh dear Margaret !
led
past simple and past participle of lead
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And if you thought it was a spelling error, why give me a lesson in grammar?
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20-05-2007, 12:04
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Re: Bye-bye Mr Blair
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And if you thought it was a spelling error, why give me a lesson in grammar?
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I didn't. That was an added bonus, courtesy of the Oxford Dictionary.
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20-05-2007, 12:13
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Re: Bye-bye Mr Blair
Margaret, could you have a word with the OF brigade. Tell them it's could have, would have, should have; not OF.
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20-05-2007, 12:42
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Re: Bye-bye Mr Blair
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Margaret, could you have a word with the OF brigade. Tell them it's could have, would have, should have; not OF.
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What makes you think I have any influence over the posters on this forum?
And doesn't that lead you to believe that what I was saying about educational standards is correct?
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The world will not be destroyed by evil people...
It will be destroyed by those who stand by and do Nothing.
(a paraphrase on a quote by Albert Einstein)
Last edited by Margaret Pilkington; 20-05-2007 at 12:43.
Reason: Blooming wireless keyboards.....grrrrr.
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20-05-2007, 12:59
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Re: Bye-bye Mr Blair
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And doesn't that lead you to believe that what I was saying about educational standards is correct?
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I know it's correct.
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Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right.
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20-05-2007, 14:15
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Re: Bye-bye Mr Blair
Regarding education under Blair, as opposed to the Conservatives.
It was whilst Minister for Education in Heath's government, that Mrs Thatcher has the honour of being the person who closed the most grammar schools, and who introduced the most comprehensive schools.
'While Margaret Thatcher was education secretary from 1970-74, the number of children in comprehensives exceeded those in selective schools for the first time.'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1813890.ece
'Margaret Thatcher to her shame has the distinction of closing more grammar schools than anyone else.'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle1813865.ece
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20-05-2007, 14:30
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Re: Bye-bye Mr Blair
yeh rindy, but people either say (thats then) or forget,or have(selective memories).
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20-05-2007, 14:45
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Re: Bye-bye Mr Blair
Oh wait nevermind. I didnt read the rest of the thread.
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20-05-2007, 16:20
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Re: Bye-bye Mr Blair
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Oh wait nevermind. I didnt read the rest of the thread.
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Always read the question at least twice, before attempting to answer.
Good luck with your exams.
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