Cameron's Rifles.

garinda · 20-05-2008, 09:42

Reading this article in last weekend's Sunday Times really tickled me, and illustrated just out of touch with reality some politicans really are.

'Little wonder, then, at the cackles of disbelief when David Cameron declared that his favourite song was Weller’s The Eton Rifles, a satire railing against social division and inequality in Britain.

Weller, one of the most respected and inventive figures in pop music, was a 21-year-old living in a rented caravan when he wrote the song after seeing a television report about right-to-work marchers being jeered by Eton schoolboys as they passed the college. By contrast, the Tory leader was a 12-year-old newcomer to Eton, where he joined the cadet corps - the object of Weller’s ridicule: “All that rugby puts hairs on your chest/ What chance have you got against a tie and a crest.”

http://entertainment.timesonline.co....cle3953594.ece

andrewb · 20-05-2008, 10:01

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Originally Posted by garinda

Reading this article in last weekend's Sunday Times really tickled me, and illustrated just out of touch with reality some politicans really are.

I didn't think Paul Weller was a politician?

shakermaker · 20-05-2008, 10:22

It's just one more in a long line of idiotic remarks from Cameron with regards to music. No one should try to re-enact Blair's painful 'Cool Britannia' David, give it up please!

Such was his enthusiasm to cover all bases in the summer of 2006 from Heat to NME, he begged himself invites to the V Festival and Victoria Beckham's World Cup bash, co-opted Bob Geldof into his Globalization and Global Policy group and claimed Radiohead played 'Fake Plastic Trees' just for him during a charity show. Radiohead rushed, horrified, to deny this.

Now Eton Rifles was his favourite song as a boy? Tosspot.

andrewb · 20-05-2008, 10:37

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It's just one more in a long line of idiotic remarks from Cameron with regards to music. No one should try to re-enact Blair's painful 'Cool Britannia' David, give it up please!

Such was his enthusiasm to cover all bases in the summer of 2006 from Heat to NME, he begged himself invites to the V Festival and Victoria Beckham's World Cup bash, co-opted Bob Geldof into his Globalization and Global Policy group and claimed Radiohead played 'Fake Plastic Trees' just for him during a charity show. Radiohead rushed, horrified, to deny this.

Now Eton Rifles was his favourite song as a boy? Tosspot.

He is younger than my dad and he listens to coldplay. He wanted to come to Leeds Festival with me last year, as did his girlfriend as they liked the lineup. I see no reason for somebody not wanting to attend these things just because he's a politician.

Yeah so what if it was his favourite song back then or not? I think Frank Turner is completely wrong in what he says in 'Thatcher ****ed the Kids' but it doesn't stop me listening to it.

shakermaker · 20-05-2008, 10:43

'Tory' is a faulty gene, not a matter of socialisation.

It's quite clear to any sane person that David Cameron is trying his best to copy Blair circa '97. Rightly so in some instances, for example masquerading as further towards the middle than right in order to get those pivotal constituencies. However I just wish he'd drop the "I'm Davo and I love hip music maaaaan" facade.

True and honest politicians don't have to flaunt a personality (fake or not) to the country as their policies stand up for themselves.

entwisi · 20-05-2008, 10:56

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Formerly known as Cyfr

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Its not right, I demand you return to your proper name immediately!

I'll have to start changing teh entries in my phones and all sorts if you continue like this!

blazey · 20-05-2008, 13:09

I find this thread a bit odd. Do people pick their music taste based on their politics? Or anything else for that matter? Alcohol lol?

I don't see why anyone would honestly think he's trying to copy Gordon Brown lol... he's hardly worthy of being anyones idol.

shakermaker · 20-05-2008, 13:14

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I find this thread a bit odd. Do people pick their music taste based on their politics? Or anything else for that matter? Alcohol lol?

Two words - Billy Bragg.

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I don't see why anyone would honestly think he's trying to copy Gordon Brown lol...

Who does?

Wynonie Harris · 20-05-2008, 13:16

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I don't see why anyone would honestly think he's trying to copy Gordon Brown lol... he's hardly worthy of being anyones idol.

No one's said he has. He's trying to copy Tony Blair...think "Cool Britannia".

andrewb · 20-05-2008, 13:36

If he was going to copy someone for electoral gain he should be copying Thatcher, she got more votes than Blair ever could.

Boeing Guy · 20-05-2008, 14:34

Being kind of right wing I am a huge Pink Floyd fan. Well they are a bit lefty, Roger Waters is very anti War and really gave it to Maggie in the 80's. along with every other right wing politician. However I never let the politics get in the way.
If David Cameron is trying to do a Boris it might be working.

yerself · 20-05-2008, 15:21

According to Wikipedia Bruce Foxton's (Jam Drummer) son is an old boy of Eton. I wonder if he told Weller? So Cameron's a ****** for liking the Jam and the Jam are a bunch of ******* because their drummer's son went to Eton.

garinda · 20-05-2008, 17:24

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According to Wikipedia Bruce Foxton's (Jam Drummer) son is an old boy of Eton. I wonder if he told Weller? So Cameron's a ****** for liking the Jam and the Jam are a bunch of ******* because their drummer's son went to Eton.

Where does it say that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Foxton

I can't see him being able to afford Eton's fees.

His career has been on the skids ever since The Jam split up.

yerself · 20-05-2008, 17:42

I should have said bassist.

Ironically, in 1997, Iago Foxton, the son of The Jam vocalist and bassist Bruce Foxton, entered Eton College as a new pupil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eton_Rifles

garinda · 20-05-2008, 17:46

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I should have said bassist.

Ironically, in 1997, Iago Foxton, the son of The Jam vocalist and bassist Bruce Foxton, entered Eton College as a new pupil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eton_Rifles

Thanks for the link.

Obviously playing in The Stiff Little Fingers, pays better than I thought.