Camerons Speech - Page 2

garinda · 06-10-2007, 08:33

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

Only millionaires pay death tax, removing stamp duty so young people have more of a chance to get on the housing ladder?

This is stealth socialism I tell you...certainly more socialist than any of New Labour's policies.

andrewb · 06-10-2007, 08:36

I'll be singing Red Flag next eh Gary

andrewb · 06-10-2007, 08:39

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Originally Posted by beechy

stamp duty starts at what ? 250.000
not many young first time buyers can afford that
or am i in cloud cuckoo land

Its £125,000 it starts, which is indeed very high but thats how crazy house prices are going

So first time buyers tend to be much older!

But ofc the stamp duty isnt just for first time buyers, it just removes the cost from anyone buying a home as its a pointless tax!

Gayle · 06-10-2007, 10:39

I was fairly impressed by his 'from the heart' way of speaking without notes or autocue but where it failed him was that he was actually very short on policy. He said a lot of 'we will reduce this/that, etc' but he didn't say an awful lot of 'how we will do it'. As usual, great presentation but lacking substance.

Wynonie Harris · 06-10-2007, 13:36

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Originally Posted by Gayle

As usual, great presentation but lacking substance.

And this from a "Nu Labour" supporter...priceless!

Gayle · 06-10-2007, 13:47

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

And this from a "Nu Labour" supporter...priceless!

There you go again Wynonie, trying to label me. I support the local Labour party - as I have said many times, this does not necessarily mean that I support the national party on all issues!

Wynonie Harris · 06-10-2007, 13:58

I know, I know, Gayle. Just a tongue-in-cheek comment. Just trying to cheer meself up!

garinda · 06-10-2007, 16:10

Never mind Nu Labour, the Tories under Cameron are definitely Conservative-Lite.

Whilst in Blackpool this week Theresa May, amongst other M.P.'s, was strutting her leopard skinned stuff at their annual Absolutely Equal 'gay disco'.

The Tory old guard must be choking on their oranges, and by that I mean Britvic, and not the fruit, used in some auto-erotic sex game.

Acrylic-bob · 06-10-2007, 16:43

It wasn't, as speeches go, a bad speech, but it wasn't a good one either. And I think that just about sums up the state of the party at the moment; middling. It has too much of the Curate's egg about it.

I can remember listening to the blessed Margaret, in her prime, when she had the Conference hanging on her every word and gesture. She delivered big, bold, no-nonsense ideas and objectives and the party and the country backed her to the hilt; even though one half suspects that it was because they were too intimidated by her to do anything else.

Cameron, it strikes me, would like to be seen as the Tory equivalent of Blair, but without the maniacal ego; it won't work, he will just end up becoming a sort of vaguely right - ish Charles Kennedey.

andrewb · 11-10-2007, 08:45

And now Labour steal all our policies... and people wonder why Cameron wasnt so forthcoming in Policy announcements when he first became leader!

panther · 11-10-2007, 08:51

cameron will never be prime minister, hes a prat!!
hes creepy too

Wynonie Harris · 11-10-2007, 12:32

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Originally Posted by panther

cameron will never be prime minister, hes a prat!!
hes creepy too

Neither quality stopped Tony Bliar!

grannyclaret · 11-10-2007, 12:54

Cameron looks just like commander Data in startrek,,,,i wonder if he has a cat called spot,,,,,,

MargaretR · 11-10-2007, 13:13

As a socialist I regret to say that Gordon Brown reminds me of Richard Nixon

cashman · 11-10-2007, 19:55

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

It wasn't, as speeches go, a bad speech, but it wasn't a good one either. And I think that just about sums up the state of the party at the moment; middling. It has too much of the Curate's egg about it.

I can remember listening to the blessed Margaret, in her prime, when she had the Conference hanging on her every word and gesture. She delivered big, bold, no-nonsense ideas and objectives and the party and the country backed her to the hilt; even though one half suspects that it was because they were too intimidated by her to do anything else.

Cameron, it strikes me, would like to be seen as the Tory equivalent of Blair, but without the maniacal ego; it won't work, he will just end up becoming a sort of vaguely right - ish Charles Kennedey.

agree with AB wasn't a bad speech, what it omitted was how the hell he was going to pay for it. lol according to economists anyway. as for brown pinching the policies cyfr if he did he watered em down a bit and SAID how he was going to pay for em.