Cannabis - Page 8

Accyexplorer · 16-02-2015, 18:50

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Originally Posted by Restless

There is a lot of Cannabis out there, even in the 'skunk' form(they word that so loosely its absolutely pathetic) for want of a better term that is is not as nature intended . Humans experiment creating hybrid seeds, making oils and other things that can be done to make a lot of cannabis into a small amount to make it a hell of a lot stronger( though the worse cannabis ever is the solid form that isn't strong at all and the dangers of smoking it is what they put in it to make it solid IE PLASTIC, CRAP, BEESWAX, ETC) who knows there could be some truth to the psychotic mental illness stuff.

I knew. I just knew when I saw the Cannabis thread alive and well it would be you bringing up this news story. I saw it this morning.
I have a friend, who now (or believes) is rastafari. He also believes it is a conspiracy(BABYLON) amongst other things. Perhaps he smoked too much and now has Psychosis

There is some interesting information on the cancer research about cannabis.

Unhealthy additives to the "solid form", "super skunk" ,"high levels of THC" or "not as nature intended".... Aren't these just direct consequences of cannabis being illegal? Surely in a legal,regulated market the levels of THC could be controlled and therefore be less of a 'risk'.

It's just nonsense,propaganda or "conspiracy" if you like ,there is no real link (not really) between cannabis and psychosis.
I'm sorry,but it is fairly well known that many folk with mental health problems, who experiance psychosis actually self medicate with the use of cannabis.

I also know a number of plastic rasta's in Accrington,Maybe one of them is your friend

Restless · 16-02-2015, 18:53

I wonder what other drugs these people with psychosis have taken
Oh he lives in Blackburn now

Accyexplorer · 16-02-2015, 19:03

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Originally Posted by Restless

I wonder what other drugs these people with psychosis have taken

There is a good chance things like amphetamine,LSD and cocaine are on the list.

I know as a "drug user" that the strains/types I buy range from weak leafs and stems to high grade (f1) highbred buds,It would be too difficult to conduct a accurate analyse of cannabis users and mental health issues (psychosis) without it being conducted and in a controlled environment.

Accyexplorer · 16-02-2015, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Restless

Oh he lives in Blackburn now

The only two plastic rasta's I know from Accy that live in Blackburn have the initials M E and C H

Restless · 16-02-2015, 19:20

Neither of those

Restless · 16-02-2015, 19:26

Those that I knew in the past that were drug users that suffered from psychosis were all amphetamine users

Margaret Pilkington · 16-02-2015, 20:15

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

Unhealthy additives to the "solid form", "super skunk" ,"high levels of THC" or "not as nature intended".... Aren't these just direct consequences of cannabis being illegal? Surely in a legal,regulated market the levels of THC could be controlled and therefore be less of a 'risk'.

It's just nonsense,propaganda or "conspiracy" if you like ,there is no real link (not really) between cannabis and psychosis.
I'm sorry,but it is fairly well known that many folk with mental health problems, who experiance psychosis actually self medicate with the use of cannabis.

I also know a number of plastic rasta's in Accrington,Maybe one of them is your friend

It has all been said before and it sounds suspiciously like justification to me...yes, I DO know I am a cynical old bat!

Margaret Pilkington · 16-02-2015, 20:25

Jason if you are happy using whatever kind of drugs you use, then that is fine.......but it is unwise to promote the use of such things to others.

Just because you have no problems...or at least none that you are willing to admit to, doesn't mean others who may use such things will be the same.

The medicinal use of cannabis is a different ball game altogether......and trials have been going on for different conditions for a long time.
It is good to know that cannabis may be added to the armoury of drugs that can be used to combat various cancers......the use of cannabinoids in such situations is closely monitored by medical professionals.

cashman · 16-02-2015, 20:39

If he aint got problems, i'm a dutchman.

Restless · 16-02-2015, 21:45

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Originally Posted by cashman

If he aint got problems, i'm a dutchman.

If you're a dutchman perhaps you can sort him some

Accyexplorer · 16-02-2015, 21:59

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Jason if you are happy using whatever kind of drugs you use, then that is fine.......but it is unwise to promote the use of such things to others.

Just because you have no problems...or at least none that you are willing to admit to, doesn't mean others who may use such things will be the same.

The medicinal use of cannabis is a different ball game altogether......and trials have been going on for different conditions for a long time.
It is good to know that cannabis may be added to the armoury of drugs that can be used to combat various cancers......the use of cannabinoids in such situations is closely monitored by medical professionals.

I'm sure you of all folk are aware It's nothing to do with being in 'the Nile' M.
Personally,I used cannabis for a number of years and have known quite a few folk of who have also used it,I'd hazard a guess (or assume) that a lot of these folk that are commenting (up and down the country) on this topic have little to no 'personal experience' whatsoever.
This latest report and the use of the crass keyword 'Skunk' is just fear ingesting propaganda and it's all part of the distract and confuse agenda

Margaret Pilkington · 16-02-2015, 22:19

While I have not used any recreational drugs myself, because of the work I was involved in for a quarter of a century...I came into contact with many people who did.
I also looked after patients who were on clinical trials of medical cannabinoids....the trials were lengthy and very involved.

Even if the risk of mental I'll health was less than 1% I would not be keen to take that risk.
Life is my drug of choice.

Margaret Pilkington · 16-02-2015, 22:25

And your reply still has the whiff of justification.
The report is not to distract or cause confusion, it is a study conducted by eminent psychiatrists at Kings College Hospital in order to inform of the risks.......So are you saying that you are more learned than them in this issue....that your drug use qualifies you to refute their findings?

DtheP47 · 16-02-2015, 22:26

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

This latest report and the use of the crass keyword 'Skunk' is just fear ingesting propaganda and it's all part of the distract and confuse agenda

Skunk is so named because of it's smell being likened to that of the animal. Dealers love the name because it gives it the "bad-ass" cachet.

Accyexplorer · 16-02-2015, 22:45

Reports can be skewed for purpose of choice.I'm prepared to accept the 'truth', and that is, cannabis is bad for 'some' but fact remains millions of folk use cannabis and a yes a tiny (very tiny) proportion might get some kind of negative mental reaction like psychosis.

Cannabis has lots of health benefits in addition to the above , Plus,as far as I kbow, no one has died from a cannabis overdose. It also has a lot of positive effects to the mind too (creativity, relaxation)......

....Also a increased sense of well being, an enhance humour

I may seem like I'm trying to justifie my drug use....I can assure you I am not.
Cannabis isn't bad for everyone,overall I believe Cannabis is very good for some regardless of what fearnongering the Kings college,MSN or the BBC have to say.